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Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage

I know this has been talked about before but I wanted to gather new opinions.

I have an autoloan that is just under a year old, it is financed through Santander at 24% (I KNOW! TERRIBLE!). I got this loan last year when my credit score was 510.

My experian fico 2 (mortgage score) is now a 680. I wanted to lower my households debt to income so I applied for an auto refinance through USAA. They approved me for an 8% loan which lowered my payments almost $200.00. This is very helpful with my DTI ratio.

 

I am scared to go through with this however, as within the next 6 months to 1 year I would like to purchase a home and I have read the ref' will drop my score significantly.


The other issue is the loan currently list both me and my husband as the borrowers. He is just climbing into the 600 range, and I would be refinancing it out of his name in order to get the 8% interest rate. Thus, I am wondering the negative impact this will have on his credit as in the next few months we were hoping to have him in the 640+ range.

 

Any thoughts on whether or not refinancing is worth lowering the DTI? 

 

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Revelate
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Re: Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage


@Anonymous wrote:

I know this has been talked about before but I wanted to gather new opinions.

I have an autoloan that is just under a year old, it is financed through Santander at 24% (I KNOW! TERRIBLE!). I got this loan last year when my credit score was 510.

My experian fico 2 (mortgage score) is now a 680. I wanted to lower my households debt to income so I applied for an auto refinance through USAA. They approved me for an 8% loan which lowered my payments almost $200.00. This is very helpful with my DTI ratio.

 

I am scared to go through with this however, as within the next 6 months to 1 year I would like to purchase a home and I have read the ref' will drop my score significantly.


The other issue is the loan currently list both me and my husband as the borrowers. He is just climbing into the 600 range, and I would be refinancing it out of his name in order to get the 8% interest rate. Thus, I am wondering the negative impact this will have on his credit as in the next few months we were hoping to have him in the 640+ range.

 

Any thoughts on whether or not refinancing is worth lowering the DTI? 

 


What are your other two mortgage scores, and does the DTI change make a material difference for the given price range you were looking at for a house?

 

On paper it's a no brainer though if I had a 680 I'd probably be hunting elsewhere than USAA for an auto loan but that's me; that said, when we're talking mortgage trifecta, it's only EX that would be affected by the change in installment utilization (AAOA/Inq not withstanding) and if your loan is only a year old you won't be losing much, if anything actually with the way the calculations work.

 

Personally I'd do it and start saving the additional cash for closing costs and what not.




        
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StartingOver10
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Re: Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage


@Anonymous wrote:

I know this has been talked about before but I wanted to gather new opinions.

I have an autoloan that is just under a year old, it is financed through Santander at 24% (I KNOW! TERRIBLE!). I got this loan last year when my credit score was 510.

My experian fico 2 (mortgage score) is now a 680. I wanted to lower my households debt to income so I applied for an auto refinance through USAA. They approved me for an 8% loan which lowered my payments almost $200.00. This is very helpful with my DTI ratio.

 

I am scared to go through with this however, as within the next 6 months to 1 year I would like to purchase a home and I have read the ref' will drop my score significantly.


The other issue is the loan currently list both me and my husband as the borrowers. He is just climbing into the 600 range, and I would be refinancing it out of his name in order to get the 8% interest rate. Thus, I am wondering the negative impact this will have on his credit as in the next few months we were hoping to have him in the 640+ range.

 

Any thoughts on whether or not refinancing is worth lowering the DTI? 

 


Yes, refi the loan asap. $200 per month is a significant savings on one loan. Best to get away from Santander anyway.

 

You are far enough away from the mortgage application that you will be in much better shape. Besides, in mortgages DTI is extremely important. It is an excellent step toward preparing yourself to apply for a mortgage.

 

If your husband's score takes a dive and he doesn't have other installment loans, have him get one of those share secured loans for $500.  It will help with his points.

Here is the link to find out about it: http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Adding-an-installment-loan-the-Share-Secure-technique/td-p/4506756

 

In the meantime he needs to spend some time in the rebuilding forum to get his score above 640 for the future mortgage. It can't hurt Smiley Happy 

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Anonymous
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Re: Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage

EQ is a 660 and TRS 661. I have 2 open collections on transunion which are both suppose to come off within the next month. Other than that I have no baddies (other than a 3 yr old chpt 7 BK, that is). I am not sure how those collections will impact my transunion as they are both over 2 years old.

 

Also, sadly, the pull from USAA caused my experian score to drop 26 points. I did the experian fico simulator and it seems that it would rebound within the next 3-6 months but I know it's just a simulator so I guess we will see how that goes.

 

The auto score USAA pulled had my experian at 646 which is is lower than my mortgage and fico 08 (previous scores). It looks like experian is going to be my lowest score now.

 

Lowering the DTI is going to increase our affordability by 40K which will land us a home in an ideal school district. 

 

All in all, I think I'm distraught over the 26 point downward jump haha.

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Anonymous
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Re: Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage

Thanks for the info on the Share Secured loan! I was trying to figure out what kind of installment credit he could get to help, and then you shared that link! Thanks again!

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Anonymous
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Re: Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage

Also, he does have about 18k in student loans. Do these count towards installment debt, or would it still be good for him to get a different installment loan?

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Revelate
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Re: Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage


@Anonymous wrote:

Also, he does have about 18k in student loans. Do these count towards installment dept, or would it still be good for him to get a different installment loan?


They count, so no need.




        
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StartingOver10
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Re: Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage

^^^Rev is right, since he has installment loans adding another TL won't help. 

 

I assume that he is current on his student loans and that they are not in deferment, right?  If he is not currently paying his student loans he will need to bring them out of deferment and start paying.  One of the changes made to FHA (and USDA follows many of the same guidelines) is the way your DTI is calculated with student loans. Here is a link for you to read http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/FHA-changing-guidelines-on-deferred-student-loans-6-1...

 

Also, one of the very serious items I see is collections after Bk.  That is very serious.  Do your best to get rid of those collections (pfd) so they dissappear altogether. It will be tough to overcome the collections after bk when going for the new mortgage.

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage


@Anonymous wrote:

I know this has been talked about before but I wanted to gather new opinions.

I have an autoloan that is just under a year old, it is financed through Santander at 24% (I KNOW! TERRIBLE!). I got this loan last year when my credit score was 510.

My experian fico 2 (mortgage score) is now a 680. I wanted to lower my households debt to income so I applied for an auto refinance through USAA. They approved me for an 8% loan which lowered my payments almost $200.00. This is very helpful with my DTI ratio.

 

I am scared to go through with this however, as within the next 6 months to 1 year I would like to purchase a home and I have read the ref' will drop my score significantly.


The other issue is the loan currently list both me and my husband as the borrowers. He is just climbing into the 600 range, and I would be refinancing it out of his name in order to get the 8% interest rate. Thus, I am wondering the negative impact this will have on his credit as in the next few months we were hoping to have him in the 640+ range.

 

Any thoughts on whether or not refinancing is worth lowering the DTI? 

 


It seems to me that refinancing to get rid of that awful loan is important economically.

 

Unfortunately, when you refi you will wind up showing a new loan with a large unpaid balance, so yes your scores will get dinged. How much, no one can say.

 

I think you should do it, and then just pay it down ahead of schedule, as fast as you can.


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Anonymous
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Re: Auto Refinancing before getting a Mortgage

One of them was for a collection account that was included in bankruptcy, so that will either be updated to show included in bankruptcy or removed. The other was for a pest control company I had no idea I was in contract with. I paid them as they agreed to remove the account all together from my report.

 

All of his as well as my student loans are in deferment. I am planning on taking them out of deferment 2 months or so before we plan to go for a pre-approval as I have read about the way they calculate deferred  student loans for DTI which would be terrible for me as I have over 70K in student loans!

 

Thanks for your help!

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