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No, you can't.

@OmarGB9 wrote:
I feel that that 720+ percentage is made up largely of the more affluent parts of the country, such as the west and east coasts and up north.
I'd be really curious to see a breakdown by regions/states.
You're right:
Minnesota always does the best in these reports on 'average scores'. I wonder if that's because it's so cold there everyone stays inside and spends time on myFICO forums.
@Anonymous wrote:
@OmarGB9 wrote:
I feel that that 720+ percentage is made up largely of the more affluent parts of the country, such as the west and east coasts and up north.
I'd be really curious to see a breakdown by regions/states.
You're right:
Minnesota always does the best in these reports on 'average scores'. I wonder if that's because it's so cold there everyone stays inside and spends time on myFICO forums.
See, and the South is stuck with the "Fair" rated 650ish scores, which confirms my suspicions. I knew it. I knew the US as a whole couldn't have THAT good credit. If we did, banks wouldn't make as much money as they do! Granted this is only one study, but still interesting.
Also, lol at your last sentence. ![]()
Also, that data is only looking at those that hold credit cards, so it's already only a subset of the (adult) population of the US.
There are still a lot of people who only use their debit cards, and a lot of people who are otherwise underbanked or unbanked.
@OmarGB9 wrote:While I agree that some people have far too much pride for petty things that don't matter, I disagree that having a high/good credit score isn't worthy of feeling accomplished. As I'm sure you know, building up your credit score takes years of patience, good finances, good decisions, and overall good management. One screw up and it all comes crashing down. So in my opinion, being able to be consistent, patient, and diligent in monitoring your credit health is something that I believe deserves a pat on the back. Not many people ever achieve scores over 700. Most people get stuck in the 600-700 range.
We'll agree to disagree on that one. I don't feel any sense of accomplishment with my current scores, and I felt personal shame when it was in the 600s and 700s because it was my fault my scores were there. I don't see patience and diligence as virtues, but rather the lack of them as vices. Waiting years while not screwing up so a score can increase isn't a pat on the back, it's doing your job.
@Anonymous wrote:
@OmarGB9 wrote:
I feel that that 720+ percentage is made up largely of the more affluent parts of the country, such as the west and east coasts and up north.
I'd be really curious to see a breakdown by regions/states.
You're right:
Minnesota always does the best in these reports on 'average scores'. I wonder if that's because it's so cold there everyone stays inside and spends time on myFICO forums.
Fun fact: Fair Isaac HQ (aka FiCO) is in ... Minnesota. Big office just north of Minneapolis in Roseville. Cooincidence?
@OmarGB9 wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
@OmarGB9 wrote:
I feel that that 720+ percentage is made up largely of the more affluent parts of the country, such as the west and east coasts and up north.
I'd be really curious to see a breakdown by regions/states.
You're right:
Minnesota always does the best in these reports on 'average scores'. I wonder if that's because it's so cold there everyone stays inside and spends time on myFICO forums.
See, and the South is stuck with the "Fair" rated 650ish scores, which confirms my suspicions. I knew it. I knew the US as a whole couldn't have THAT good credit. If we did, banks wouldn't make as much money as they do! Granted this is only one study, but still interesting.
Also, lol at your last sentence.
The part that frustrates me with this is that income has little bearing on one's ability to have good credit/finances, yet so many complain their problems are because they don't make enough. There are problems at both ends of the spectrum - 60% of retired NBA players are bankrupt within 5 years of retirement, and the league minimum salary is far beyond what most people will ever make in a year.
For the low earners, it's that you just don't make enough to live the quality of life you see on TV; pretending that they can with credit is what dooms them. For the high earners, it's that high income is ephemeral and you should plan first and spend later instead of trying to look wealthy. For a nation that's so distrusting of the news media, it's awfully eager to be scammed by marketing BS pumped via TV and social media.
TLDR version: Nobody, regardless of income, should try to live a lifestyle that requires 85%+ of their income. A $100,000/year job doesn't mean you deserve a German luxury car. A $30,000/year job doesn't mean you deserve Amazon Prime plus 6 streaming subscriptions or not to have several roommates in a smaller home.
No, you can't.
Thank you for the direct answer to my question. I'm disappointed, but accepting.