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Charge card ever viewed different than credit card?

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Anonymous
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Charge card ever viewed different than credit card?

I think we've discussed this in the past, but are there any circumstances where a charge card would be viewed differently than a typical credit card under any FICO scoring models?

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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: Charge card ever viewed different than credit card?


@Anonymous wrote:

I think we've discussed this in the past, but are there any circumstances where a charge card would be viewed differently than a typical credit card under any FICO scoring models?


Most assuredly - if the charge card is coded as a charge card and there is no guarantee on coding.

 

Personally I can only speak to my AMEX NPSL charge card as follows:

1) Classic Fico 98 and the associated industry enhanced versions factor in B/HB in scoring. This was VERY evident when EX Fico 98 scores took a 25 hit after I posted an AMEX balance greater than the previous high balance.  This results in a new HB such that => (new B)/(new HB) = 100%.  No score drop on any of the more recent Fico 04, Fico 8 or Fico 9 models. (this is to be expected because NPSL charge card "utilization" is ignored in later Fico models)

2) Experienced a score drop on all my Fico 8 industru enhanced scores when only my AMEX card reported a balance on a 3B report. This is because the charge card WAS NOT included in revolving CC activity. The reason statements on EX score 2 associated with 100% AMEX B/HB with no other cards reporting were:

 

AMEX only reporting.jpg

 

Again, my AMEX charge is not truely revolving credit thus the 2nd statement. However, as mentioned above, EX Fico score 2 (Fico 98) looks at B/HB and the displayed "heavy use"  reason statement was presented, IMO, because it represents the best fit for 100% B/HB. This heavy use statement was only associated with Fico 98 model scores on the 3B report.

 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Anonymous
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Re: Charge card ever viewed different than credit card?

Good info, thanks.  I wasn't aware that it would be viewed differently than a revolver with respect to balance reporting.

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RobertEG
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Re: Charge card ever viewed different than credit card?

There are three major types of credit:  Installment, Revolving, and Open (not to be confused with an Open account)

 

Open-type credit is due in full when billed, and does not permit a carry-over of balance, and thus does not have a revolving balance based on consumer discretion.

Typical examples are utilities, rent, and charge cards.

 

Open-type credit is not included in or scored under % utilization, which applies only to revolving credit accounts.

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Anonymous
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Re: Charge card ever viewed different than credit card?

So Robert, with the exception of these types of accounts being included on your credit report (and impacting AAoA, for example) there's really no data included on these accounts that can impact score?  So charge cards don't matter when it comes to utilization, or the presence of that type of account on your credit report?  Thanks for the feedback.

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