Child Support & Scoring

[Anonymous]

TNWM...Amazing how that child support thing works...so sometimey..Myself...never could get a cent...judge told me I "didn't need his money". wow...but all my guy friends were getting jacked up!!! Never have understood that...Had an order to receive $150 month...wooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooo!!! that I never got...arrears racking up...nobody cared...never felt the need to pursue...just got bitter with the system....

[Anonymous]

I think child support should be eliminated.

I'm not in favor of anyone being given money for being warm and breathing. I'm an old-school capitalist: I think when I earn money it belongs to me. Not the State, not my ex, not the oppressed people of the world, not the Communist Party. Me. I earned it.

People can whine about how unfair that is, but the twentieth century showed conclusively that capitalism with extremes modified provides the best standard of living and the greatest opportunity of any economic system ever contrived. We (as a species) tried all sort of "we're all in this together" and "one for all and all for one" systems. Few of them worked at all, none worked very well, and many failed rather spectacularly.

I'm not opposed to emergency social welfare to help the truly destitute, nor graduated income tax (I'm not an Ayn Rand-style absolutist). I have nothing against paying reasonable taxes for schools, highways, national defense, and research and development (though I do believe our current politicians are rather poor stewards of the public purse, and new leadership is needed).

But I utterly oppose paying a special tax for being a divorced father. Child support is unconstitutional, as the Constitution contains an equal protection clause that forbids the levying of taxes on select groups of people.

I think the best for for divorced fathers to protest unfair child support judgments is to do what productive, intelligent people have done whenever communism rears its ugly head: leave. The bottom line is the kommissars of the child support system need us to survive. We do not need them.

[fused]

I do not have any experience with child support.  After reading this thread though it does seem to me the whole apparatus of it is comparable to our country's tax system.  That is, you should pay more because you can afford to.  Where is the capitalism in that, more like the redistribution of wealth.  Heck, we hear daily from the left how we the taxpayers should continue to find tax credits and breaks for the indigent.  Last time I checked they DO NOT PAY TAXES!  How does someone who does not pay taxes need breaks and credits. Is there a similarity here to child support, my I hope not.

[Anonymous]

Eliminate Child Support??  (way off topic but I'll respond)

Any two people who have kids, it is their responsiblity to financially support them.

Communisim would be more like when you have a deadbeat father who runs off and "starts a new life" and refuses to finish raising his children.  And then I'm expected send my tax dollars so the single mother can feed her kids...

One is not "taxed" for being a divorced father, one is expected to be responsible.  When your not responsible the court steps in and forces the issue so the kids don't starve, have lunch money, can afford clothes, etc...

[smallfry]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Eliminate Child Support?? (way off topic but I'll respond)

Any two people who have kids, it is their responsiblity to financially support them.

Communisim would be more like when you have a deadbeat father who runs off and "starts a new life" and refuses to finish raising his children. And then I'm expected send my tax dollars so the single mother can feed her kids...

One is not "taxed" for being a divorced father, one is expected to be responsible. When your not responsible the court steps in and forces the issue so the kids don't starve, have lunch money, can afford clothes, etc...

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Incredible you even had to respond to the post. Of course you have to pay for your children. Get a decent lawyer and you won't get screwed. You made 'em you pay for 'em. I've been paying for three children for the last 12 years. It is what it is.The kids shouldn't be made to suffer. It's deadbeats looking for any excuse not to pay that have made it harder for the fathers who have lived up to their end of the bargain. Running away is not the answer.

[Anonymous]

Same here, 3 kids supported after divorce about 10years ago.  I live 3 houses away from my ex and she's glad I do.   I gladly take care of my kids, wouldn't have it any other way. 

I even contribute above and beyond what the court ordered, just last nite I gave my 14 y.o. my brand new CC so she could go to the mall and buy $40 jeans, brought them home and they already had holes in them (pre-broke in/distressed she says) ....don't get me started on that....

Message Edited by ctrob on 06-17-2007 07:36 AM

[chartley3]

My entire beef with the child support  issue is simple, they do not hold the same standards to the woman as they do to the man. Case in point, I was laid off in 2001 when the dot coms blew up and IT laid off alot of people. The first minute the money ran out and I had to wait for Unemployment, my child's mother complained she didnt receive her check and summoned to court I was to answer to a contempt charge. Now mind you this woman hasnt had a full time job it over 14 years and essentually lives off of what I pay for child support. When I finally had enough of the BS and took her to court to get them make her get a job I was told the only thing they could do was assign her what they felt she could honestly make in the workplace right now. They assigned her a whopping $7.50 an hr. That is what is wrong with this entire system.

[smallfry]

James Brown was wrong. It ain't a man's world. That's the way it is friend.

[Anonymous]

Well all I know is if they try any monkey business with me, I'm outta here. I'm not going to be a victim of the government, and if I do start geting ahead financially I'm not going to have it all go down the tubes the rest of my life so my ex can sit on her rear and play video games all day. No way, no how.

The only way the system will ever change is if the victims boycott it. That's what's brought down every communist regime in history.

And I thought the "get a good lawyer and you won't get screwed" comment was a belly-buster. Maybe you've got thousands of dollars just laying around the place to hire a good lawyer...the other 95% of the population, including me, does not.

I have a college degree, I work hard, I don't cheat or steal, and I'm a writer and IT professional. Most civilized countries would welcome a new citizen like me. I could fly to my fiance's country and get citizenship in a minute. Only in America am I harassed and surcharged by the government for no reason other than my gender and the fact I had a child. Even communist China doesn't surcharge fathers.

[smallfry]

What a country.