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onepointatatime
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Does temporary high UTL affect scores?

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone out there can explain something to me.. On these forums I've often read of people telling others to make sure that their UTL Ratio is always low, like within 10%.
However what happens if I purchase expensive items , and therefore have a UTL of say 80% - but only for one day, since I pay it off immediately. Would that temporary high usage affect my score negatively in any way ? I mean does the Fico scoring algorithm care at all about that ?


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Anonymous
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Re: Does temporary high UTL affect scores?

Your credit company only reports once a month, so if you pay it off the next day it will never show up on your credit report (assuming your billing cycle didn't end that night)

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CreditDunce
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Re: Does temporary high UTL affect scores?


@onepointatatime wrote:
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone out there can explain something to me.. On these forums I've often read of people telling others to make sure that their UTL Ratio is always low, like within 10%.
However what happens if I purchase expensive items , and therefore have a UTL of say 80% - but only for one day, since I pay it off immediately. Would that temporary high usage affect my score negatively in any way ? I mean does the Fico scoring algorithm care at all about that ?

If by some chance you let the 80% on one card report, it will hurt your credit score that month.  But once you pay it off and the CC reports, your score will go right back to where it was.

 

What gets people in trouble is when they carry high balances and only pay the minimum each month.  Assuming you are not in a 0% promo period, the interest will eat you up.  Plus you risk getting balanced chased once you start paying down the balance.  CCC like the interest generated by people who carry balances.  But they also get worried when you carry the high balance for a long time.

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onepointatatime
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Re: Does temporary high UTL affect scores?


@CreditDunce wrote:

 

If by some chance you let the 80% on one card report, it will hurt your credit score that month.  But once you pay it off and the CC reports, your score will go right back to where it was.


 

No I don't mean if I carry the 80% balance on the day the lender reports.. I'm aware of that. 

 

What I'm saying is using it at a high UTL on a non-reporting day, then quickly paying it off.. I'm wondering if that has any impact on the FICO Scoring model.  The reason I had this thought is because I noticed that on my credit reports - they DO keep track of the highest balance I've ever had.. it's permanently recorded, for every single account.



Sep 2013: mid 500s | Sep 2014: myfico: EX 539 | EQ 594 | TU 694 || My Rebuilding Journey
myfico, 12/3/2015: EX 666 | EQ 677 | TU 689 | AAoA : 3y | INQs (12/24) EX 11/13 | EQ 5/9 | TU 4/7
Cards: Chase Sapphire Pref. $6K | BoA Travel Rewards $1.6K | Cap1 QS Rewards $7.5K | Priceline $0.5K | Credit Union $2K | Total (5) Revolving CLs: $17.6K
Goal Score 2015: FICO08 800+
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CreditDunce
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Re: Does temporary high UTL affect scores?


@onepointatatime wrote:

@CreditDunce wrote:

 

If by some chance you let the 80% on one card report, it will hurt your credit score that month.  But once you pay it off and the CC reports, your score will go right back to where it was.


 

No I don't mean if I carry the 80% balance on the day the lender reports.. I'm aware of that. 

 

What I'm saying is using it at a high UTL on a non-reporting day, then quickly paying it off.. I'm wondering if that has any impact on the FICO Scoring model.  The reason I had this thought is because I noticed that on my credit reports - they DO keep track of the highest balance I've ever had.. it's permanently recorded, for every single account.


And my point was even if it reports a balance on the statement it won't matter in a month.

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Revelate
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Re: Does temporary high UTL affect scores?


@onepointatatime wrote:

@CreditDunce wrote:

 

If by some chance you let the 80% on one card report, it will hurt your credit score that month.  But once you pay it off and the CC reports, your score will go right back to where it was.


 

No I don't mean if I carry the 80% balance on the day the lender reports.. I'm aware of that. 

 

What I'm saying is using it at a high UTL on a non-reporting day, then quickly paying it off.. I'm wondering if that has any impact on the FICO Scoring model.  The reason I had this thought is because I noticed that on my credit reports - they DO keep track of the highest balance I've ever had.. it's permanently recorded, for every single account.


High balance isn't used for FICO scoring except if the tradeline doesn't have a reported limit (which is incredibly rare at this point, used to be unfortunately common).  Also, there are a few lenders (BOFA used to be notorious for this) who will do a mid-cycle report if they see a sudden spike in utilization.  DCU will do it occasionally too in my experience.  

 

Temporary blip if it does happen, and I put every single purchase on my credit cards regardless of size and have maxxed the majority of them temporarily (and let them report too), isn't a big deal to do it.




        
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onepointatatime
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Re: Does temporary high UTL affect scores?


@Revelate wrote:

High balance isn't used for FICO scoring except if the tradeline doesn't have a reported limit (which is incredibly rare at this point, used to be unfortunately common).  Also, there are a few lenders (BOFA used to be notorious for this) who will do a mid-cycle report if they see a sudden spike in utilization.  DCU will do it occasionally too in my experience.  

Temporary blip if it does happen, and I put every single purchase on my credit cards regardless of size and have maxxed the majority of them temporarily (and let them report too), isn't a big deal to do it.


Very complete answer... thank you!



Sep 2013: mid 500s | Sep 2014: myfico: EX 539 | EQ 594 | TU 694 || My Rebuilding Journey
myfico, 12/3/2015: EX 666 | EQ 677 | TU 689 | AAoA : 3y | INQs (12/24) EX 11/13 | EQ 5/9 | TU 4/7
Cards: Chase Sapphire Pref. $6K | BoA Travel Rewards $1.6K | Cap1 QS Rewards $7.5K | Priceline $0.5K | Credit Union $2K | Total (5) Revolving CLs: $17.6K
Goal Score 2015: FICO08 800+
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