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EX 16 point drop in week

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EX 16 point drop in week

have really just started tracking score movement and do not have a real strong grasp yet on what is normal. CCT Report difference from 1/13 and 1/20 is 1 new card account and +$100 in total balances. $2093 to $2187. Would this be more the response to a new account reporting, the increase in balance, a combination of both?

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thornback
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Re: EX 16 point drop in week

Depends. Could be one or both. What is the average age of your accounts? If it's considered short (typically less than 5 years) then the new card could have lowered it even more, dinging your score. This a ding from which you can recover in 3-6 months.

Is that balance you noted on only one card, or the sum of several? What is/are the credit limit(s)? High utilization can absolutely cause a significant drop (such as 16 points) in score. You can quickly recover from this by paying the balance down before the next statement cuts.
Personal Aphorism:"Forget What You Feel, Remember What You Deserve"
Starting FICO 8s | 09/2017: EX 641 ✦ EQ 634 ✦ TU 647
Current FICO 8s | 04/2022: EX 796 ✦ EQ 793 ✦ TU 790
Current FICO 9s | 04/2022: EX 790 ✦ EQ 788 ✦ TU 782
2022 Goal Score | 800s

My AAoA:
4.6 years not incl. AU / 4.9 years incl. AU
My AoOA: 9.2 years not incl. AU / 11.2 years incl. AU
Inquiries: EX 0/12 ✦ EQ 0/12 ✦ TU 0/12
Report Status: Clean
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Anonymous
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Re: EX 16 point drop in week


@thornback wrote:
Depends. Could be one or both. What is the average age of your accounts? If it's considered short (typically less than 5 years) then the new card could have lowered it even more, dinging your score. This a ding from which you can recover in 3-6 months.

Is that balance you noted on only one card, or the sum of several? What is/are the credit limit(s)? High utilization can absolutely cause a significant drop (such as 16 points) in score. You can quickly recover from this by paying the balance down before the next statement cuts.

Thanks for response. AAOA is 10 years, oldest is 24 years. the total balance is roughly $1800k left on personal loan and the remainder spread over 3 cards all with limits between 5-10k. I will pay 2 cards in full this month and possibly the 3rd as well. Will watch how the score reacts. learning more every day in this forum thanks again
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thornback
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Re: EX 16 point drop in week

Given your long credit history - and assuming nothing else changed on your reports - then I'd have to conclude it's the change in overall util - that extra $100 probably put you over a threshold - resulting in a FICO punishment.

8.9%, 28.9%, 48.9%, 68.9%, and 88.9% seem to be the util thresholds that cause score changes, based on various data points. Below 8.9% gives you the most gain in points. Over 28.9% starts to hurt, but going down from 48.9% to 28.9% will result in a score increase.
Personal Aphorism:"Forget What You Feel, Remember What You Deserve"
Starting FICO 8s | 09/2017: EX 641 ✦ EQ 634 ✦ TU 647
Current FICO 8s | 04/2022: EX 796 ✦ EQ 793 ✦ TU 790
Current FICO 9s | 04/2022: EX 790 ✦ EQ 788 ✦ TU 782
2022 Goal Score | 800s

My AAoA:
4.6 years not incl. AU / 4.9 years incl. AU
My AoOA: 9.2 years not incl. AU / 11.2 years incl. AU
Inquiries: EX 0/12 ✦ EQ 0/12 ✦ TU 0/12
Report Status: Clean
Garden Status:  


Without patience, we will learn less in life. We will see less. We will feel less. We will hear less. Ironically, rush and more usually mean less.
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Anonymous
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Re: EX 16 point drop in week

OP, what was/is your aggregate utilization both before the new card reported and now?  Total balances / total limits = aggregate utilization.

 

What is your balance on each individual card and it's limit?  Looking at those numbers, I'm confident we'll be able to find the reason why you lost the points.

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NRB525
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Re: EX 16 point drop in week

OP what are your scores changing from and to? It matters whether in the 600’s 700’s or 800’s. 

 

The new new account may be a factor.

 

My EX is sticky, meaning it takes an accumulation of several items to move it. When was the last change in EX and what has been changing in your account during that time?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: EX 16 point drop in week

831 to 815. EX was usually pretty static, moving +/- 2 or 3 points, I assumed to be balance related. My total spend could be <$50 one month, and $500 the next. Installment is $1800 on a 5K loan. AMEX is $98 on 10k. Chase is $165 on 3K. Mid1st is $32 on 7.5K. Now that I am studying the report closer, I notice I have 4 other cards reporting a balance all <$10 on 8k or higher cards. These were cards that I had not used recently and just used them for small purchases I would normally pay cash or debit for. Possible that a total 7 cards reporting a balance could cause this? I will pay all those in full this month and see how score reacts. The report shows total revolving debt $340 and total credit $124K
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