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@Anonymous wrote:I normally don't pay much attention to the FICO simulators here or elsewhere but I did notice something today. In the past both TU and EQ seemed to treat my HELOC as a mortgage. Now the TU simulator seems to include it in revolving credit. That could be the reason for the dairly pronounced change in that score. The EQ change is far less dramatic and that one stilkl counts it as a mortgage (or at least it is not in the revolving total).
BINGO
@LynetteM wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:I normally don't pay much attention to the FICO simulators here or elsewhere but I did notice something today. In the past both TU and EQ seemed to treat my HELOC as a mortgage. Now the TU simulator seems to include it in revolving credit. That could be the reason for the dairly pronounced change in that score. The EQ change is far less dramatic and that one stilkl counts it as a mortgage (or at least it is not in the revolving total).
BINGO
I'll bet the balance on that HELOC just went from a little above the arbitrary threshold where it's not treated as revolving to a little below that threshold.
I wonder what will happen when that HELOC is PIF???
I checked again today and they have reclassified the HELOC asa mortgage account but my score dropped another 18 points and the explanation given in the report said it is because I have no recent activity on revolving accounts----even though my credit card balance (all recent activity) is showing.
I give up. Thak God I am not planning on applying for new credit soon.
I feel that a temporary job loss should have no effect on your credit score, especially when all your payments were made on time and with you apparently having the financial ability to weather a short term job loss. With that being said, I have to wonder what FICO is all about when it comes to your financial life. For instance, FICO says that you should not use more than 30% of your available line of credit on a credit card. Well then, why give you a larger line when you are not supposed to use it, especially if you have the ability to pay it when due. Who made FICO God is what I ask in times like this. As well, I drive for a limousine service and deal with the corporate world almost exclusively and you hear some stories about the credit world. Many people are reducing their line of credit use to comply with the will of God (FICO) and then the credit card companies go and reduce your line of credit on your card to what you brought it down to - sometimes by as much as 75% of your original line of credit. Now I ask you, is that fair? Perhaps FICO should either revise their "rules" about how you live with credit or get with the credit card companies and changes this 30% use of your line of credit thing. And look at all the products that FICO sells - all designed to bring in money which translates to greed, the American way. To my estimation, FICO and the credit reporting agencies are kind of like one of Bernie Madoff's ponzi schemes. The pity of it all is that the average American cannot see through all this, and that is indeed a real shame.
Rebucketing can be frustrating? We're talking about going from roughly 810 to roughly 790. (I don't remember exact #s.) It doesn't matter. There's so much more in life to be frustrated about.
@Anonymous wrote:
I feel that a temporary job loss should have no effect on your credit score, especially when all your payments were made on time and with you apparently having the financial ability to weather a short term job loss. With that being said, I have to wonder what FICO is all about when it comes to your financial life. For instance, FICO says that you should not use more than 30% of your available line of credit on a credit card. Well then, why give you a larger line when you are not supposed to use it, especially if you have the ability to pay it when due. Who made FICO God is what I ask in times like this. As well, I drive for a limousine service and deal with the corporate world almost exclusively and you hear some stories about the credit world. Many people are reducing their line of credit use to comply with the will of God (FICO) and then the credit card companies go and reduce your line of credit on your card to what you brought it down to - sometimes by as much as 75% of your original line of credit. Now I ask you, is that fair? Perhaps FICO should either revise their "rules" about how you live with credit or get with the credit card companies and changes this 30% use of your line of credit thing. And look at all the products that FICO sells - all designed to bring in money which translates to greed, the American way. To my estimation, FICO and the credit reporting agencies are kind of like one of Bernie Madoff's ponzi schemes. The pity of it all is that the average American cannot see through all this, and that is indeed a real shame.
FICO scores on what gets reported, so you can use your credit cards at 100% of the credit limit every month if you wanted to. The goal is to pay off the balances to $0 before it reports and most cards report the balances you had on the statement date. So, it's ok to use more than 30% just pay it off before your statement cuts and make sure your CC balances are where you want it to be on that day.
Yes, many credit card companies slashed limits, especially in this economy. They are justifiably doing so to mitigate losses especially with credit card defaults at an all-time high. It has impacted folks in here with bad credit and bad scores and happened to people in here with 800+ FICO scores and $0 balances. I don't blame lenders for doing that, even though our purchasing power has been cut. Knock on wood, but of 14 CCs, I only had one card cut the credit limit and that was a Bloomingdales from $2500 to $800, but with some convincing they bumped it to $2200, even though I never spent more than $500 ever on the card. By the way, a slashed credit limit will never hurt your FICO score. What will hurt is the utilization increase if you are carrying balances higher than what they should be.
It's corporate greed that puts a roof over my head and puts food on my table. I'm rather fond of it.
Actually I was talking about going all the way down to 770. And yes there are better things to worry about but the point od this forum id to understand FICO scoriung and I thought this thread dealt with thatr.
@Anonymous wrote:
...to understand FICO scoriung and I thought this thread dealt with thatr.
Credit Scoring 101 - great for knowing what is in your credit score and to see how your score is impacted.
@Anonymous wrote:I checked again today and they have reclassified the HELOC asa mortgage account but my score dropped another 18 points and the explanation given in the report said it is because I have no recent activity on revolving accounts----even though my credit card balance (all recent activity) is showing.
I give up. Thak God I am not planning on applying for new credit soon.
Now it is back up to 792a 22 point increae from the low point) I dont understand TU