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SouthJamaica
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Effect of closing low utilization installment loans

I had 6 small installment loans, all with low utilization. This month I've closed 5 of 6.

 

I'm wondering how this will affect my scores, if at all. 

 

Positively, because I'm reducing my number of accounts with balance?

 

Negatively, because I'm decreasing the percentage of open accounts which are installment loans rather than revolving accounts?

 

Or  not at all, because (a) neither of the above matters, or (b) each of the above cancels the other out?


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Anonymous
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Re: Effect of closing low utilization installment loans

For FICO 8s, I think it'd be (a) as long as your aggregate loan utilization is still under or at the same amount

 

Possibly increase on other FICO score versions for having less credit accounts  reporting a balance

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Anonymous
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Re: Effect of closing low utilization installment loans

What was your before/after aggregate installment loan utilization?

 

What was your before/after #/% of accounts with a balance?

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Anonymous
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Re: Effect of closing low utilization installment loans


@SouthJamaica wrote:

I had 6 small installment loans, all with low utilization. This month I've closed 5 of 6.

 

I'm wondering how this will affect my scores, if at all. 

 

Positively, because I'm reducing my number of accounts with balance?

 

Negatively, because I'm decreasing the percentage of open accounts which are installment loans rather than revolving accounts?

 

Or  not at all, because (a) neither of the above matters, or (b) each of the above cancels the other out?


@SouthJamaica Very interesting question and test. I definitely think the older versions will respond positively due to the decreased number of accounts with a balance, maybe even A little on 8.

 

as for the revolver:loan ratio increasing, I don't know if that includes closed accounts or just open. That's a question I'd like an answer to. what will be your before and after ratio?

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Effect of closing low utilization installment loans


@Anonymous wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

I had 6 small installment loans, all with low utilization. This month I've closed 5 of 6.

 

I'm wondering how this will affect my scores, if at all. 

 

Positively, because I'm reducing my number of accounts with balance?

 

Negatively, because I'm decreasing the percentage of open accounts which are installment loans rather than revolving accounts?

 

Or  not at all, because (a) neither of the above matters, or (b) each of the above cancels the other out?


@SouthJamaica Very interesting question and test. I definitely think the older versions will respond positively due to the decreased number of accounts with a balance, maybe even A little on 8.

 

as for the revolver:loan ratio increasing, I don't know if that includes closed accounts or just open. That's a question I'd like an answer to. what will be your before and after ratio?


For open accounts the ratios of installment loans to total accounts would be: before 6/37 (16.2%) after 1/37 32 (2.7% 3.1%)

The ratios of open installment loans to total of all open and closed accounts would be: 6/71 (8.5%) before, 1/71 after (1.4%)

 

Update 11/23/20 10:44 pm:@Anonymous I just corrected the open accounts "after" figures

 

 

 


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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SouthJamaica
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Re: Effect of closing low utilization installment loans


@Anonymous wrote:

What was your before/after aggregate installment loan utilization?

 

What was your before/after #/% of accounts with a balance?


Everything was 8% or less, which will also be the case for the surviving loan. Which is why I didn't consider utilization to be a factor.

 

Accounts with balance: before 27, after yet to be determined but probably in the neighborhood of 21.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: Effect of closing low utilization installment loans

The change in # of accounts with a balance is significant. That should be a positive.

 

However, if your remaining open loan is quite young (say under 6 months age) and one of the recently closed loans was significantly older (say over 2 years age) that could have a negative impact. One of the Fico scoring factors is AAoA/AoOA of installment loans specific to open accounts only.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Anonymous
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Re: Effect of closing low utilization installment loans


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

The change in # of accounts with a balance is significant. That should be a positive.

 

However, if your remaining open loan is quite young (say under 6 months age) and one of the recently closed loans was significantly older (say over 2 years age) that could have a negative impact. One of the Fico scoring factors is AAoA/AoOA of installment loans specific to open accounts only.


He might be able to isolate that Scoring Factor because it doesn't appear to be at EQ8, just TU8 and EX8. I didn't check the mortgage scores. 

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Effect of closing low utilization installment loans


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

The change in # of accounts with a balance is significant. That should be a positive.

 

However, if your remaining open loan is quite young (say under 6 months age) and one of the recently closed loans was significantly older (say over 2 years age) that could have a negative impact. One of the Fico scoring factors is AAoA/AoOA of installment loans specific to open accounts only.


The ages are almost exactly the ones you threw out as examples.

 

One of the closed loans was a little over 2 years of age.

 

The remaining loan is 6 months of age.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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SouthJamaica
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Re: Effect of closing low utilization installment loans


@Anonymous wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

The change in # of accounts with a balance is significant. That should be a positive.

 

However, if your remaining open loan is quite young (say under 6 months age) and one of the recently closed loans was significantly older (say over 2 years age) that could have a negative impact. One of the Fico scoring factors is AAoA/AoOA of installment loans specific to open accounts only.


He might be able to isolate that Scoring Factor because it doesn't appear to be at EQ8, just TU8 and EX8. I didn't check the mortgage scores. 


EX is the only one I can monitor on a daily basis, and daily monitoring is my only way of ever isolating any particular event.

 


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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