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Experian 60 mo (5y) AAOA boundary: update 5/4/19

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Exeperian Age boundary 60 mo AAOA

I'm going to try pulling some data together today: the Citi DC ninja reported and I got spanked (-26 on FICO 8) so I need to run some analysis and it's the weekend so I have some time to be able to do that.

 

Probably going to just present it all in another thread because it's going to cover  more topics than just this but I will stick a link here if I go that route.  Didn't expect my credit to react on any of this.




        
Message 11 of 16
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Exeperian Age boundary 60 mo AAOA

Or maybe this one, not sure, did drop below the 5 year AAOA mark but that doesn't explain the magnitude of the FICO 8 change.

 

Looks like the FICO 2 change was spot on +9 / -9 and the reason code for short credit history moved back up to #1.  Absolutely incontrovertable for FICO 2 and completely rules out the 11 year AOOA as a boundary too.

 

For completeness AOYA went from 5m to 1m, that didn't factor in FICO 2, it might've in FICO 8 much bigger shift there vs. the May 1 5 year AAOA change but sadly I don't have great reason codes, yo CMS's: gimme data!

 




        
Message 12 of 16
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Exeperian Age boundary 60 mo AAOA

Message 13 of 16
Anonymous
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Re: Exeperian Age boundary 60 mo AAOA

Very well done Revelate!!
I realized 2 points at this threshold. I wonder why the difference? We are both Clean/aged/thick/new for 8, right?
Message 14 of 16
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Exeperian Age boundary 60 mo AAOA

Well for FICO 8 going past this threshold was +3 which sounds much like your 2; where I got whacked was almost assuredly new accounts conflating with the AAOA change: went from 5 months to 1 month AOYA: seems pretty extreme for a new account but it could be the total within a year or 6 months or something rather than just AOYA and that would fit both my and Cassie’s data I think too... so I have to wait a bit on that.

It was FICO 2 that was +9, and that datapoint is gold standard: the FICO 8 one is kind of a mess with that big move down when Citi reported but the age metrics got split apart somewhat at least.

AAOA 5 years / 60 months for the datapoint
AOOA 11 years (not breakpoint but reference)
Complaints are inquiries, new accounts, CFA outside of the short history one: basically all Experian models are complaining about this though some industry options have the longest revolver or longest installment complaints, both also around age.

As for thick, survey says yes Smiley Wink. Total tradelines is over 30 and 19 open as of today.



        
Message 15 of 16
Anonymous
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Re: Exeperian Age boundary 60 mo AAOA

You are sharp! I didn't even think of the AoYA metrics coming into play. That could explain some other things...Well explained. Thanks!
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