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Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%

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nyuphoto
Regular Contributor

Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%

Thanks @Anonymous , I appreciate all your help!!

Cards (In order of approval) TCL: 137k

Chase Home Mortgage 402k 3.25% 30yr | 10/2021 | AU  
App’d for my first CC in April 2020, hoping for a 3k SL… Anyone can turn their credit around.
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Anonymous
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Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%

@nyuphoto My pleasure, and here's the good news. If you enter the garden now you'll be just about right for the mortgage and then as soon as it finalises, you can have your card lineup ready and execute your spree. 

You'll get better APRs and SLs if you wait, trust me

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nyuphoto
Regular Contributor

Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%

Transunion updated today. These are screenshots from today. What I don't understand is what was the 22+ score increase for on June 30? It appears I lost -11 when I went AZ and gained that back today. But why +22 on 6/30? That's a big boost for aging

 

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Cards (In order of approval) TCL: 137k

Chase Home Mortgage 402k 3.25% 30yr | 10/2021 | AU  
App’d for my first CC in April 2020, hoping for a 3k SL… Anyone can turn their credit around.
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Anonymous
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Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%


@nyuphoto wrote:

Transunion updated today. These are screenshots from today. What I don't understand is what was the 22+ score increase for on June 30? It appears I lost -11 when I went AZ and gained that back today. But why +22 on 6/30? That's a big boost for aging

 

F6935753-D296-43DE-8F57-A2327A0FC790.jpeg

 

 

3F95D791-D3FE-446B-B088-303469089416.jpeg

 

07762B80-91AA-4E7E-B20B-D6E6EBB09221.png

 


@nyuphoto Two things off rip. Number one, open up those two adjacent TransUnion score changes and let me see the negative reason codes, please.

 

Numero dos, what are all your aging metrics? And don't give me the fluff from the frontend, do the math please. (:-) with puppydog eyes). 😉

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nyuphoto
Regular Contributor

Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%

@Anonymous 

I will sit down and put all dates together from the 9 accounts reporting. Of note, Another interesting bump appeared today on Equifax. See below, I lost -7 Equifax points when I went AZ, today I gained back the +7 and an additional +22. There's that +22 bump again, same as TU. 
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Cards (In order of approval) TCL: 137k

Chase Home Mortgage 402k 3.25% 30yr | 10/2021 | AU  
App’d for my first CC in April 2020, hoping for a 3k SL… Anyone can turn their credit around.
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nyuphoto
Regular Contributor

Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%

Ok here are all of my acounts reporting to CRA's and the dates opened from oldest to younges:

 

1. Coastline FCU auto loan CLOSED (EQ): opened 8/2005, last activity 6/2010, last updated 6/2011

2. NFCU secured card CLOSED (EQ, TU, EX): opened 3/2015, last activity 5/2016, last updated 1/18, 1/18, 9/16

3. AU Chase Disney (EQ, TU, EX): Opened 12/2016

4.Cap One Auto Finance CLOSED (EQ, TU, EX): opened 11/2017, last activity 9/2018

5. BMW Financial services Auto Loan (EQ, TU, EX): opened 9/2019

6. Regions Bank Mortgage (all 3): openend 1/2020

7. NFCU MR Amex (all3): opened 4/2020

8. Chase Amazon Prime (all 3): opened 4/2020

9. Apple Card GS (TU): opened 4/2020

10. Chase Freedom (all 3): opened 6/4/2020, just reported

11. Amex Gold: opened 6/4/2020, not yet reporting

 

Cards (In order of approval) TCL: 137k

Chase Home Mortgage 402k 3.25% 30yr | 10/2021 | AU  
App’d for my first CC in April 2020, hoping for a 3k SL… Anyone can turn their credit around.
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Anonymous
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Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%

@nyuphotoCongratulations, that's a credit mix award just like the one at EX, I believe. Remember, you are under a penalty until you have 3 cards, or you are awarded points up through 3 cards, however you wanna view it.

 

I'll do the ages when I get a chance, thanks!

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%

Congrats on all the improvements you have been making. You've got a good lineup of cards and loans with good limits. 

The AZEO method will eke out some extra points when it is time for your mortgage, although the number of actual points is variable per person. One thing you may want to consider while gardening, see how many points you actually get for AZEO, vs letting your cards report organically each month. AZEO takes some effort to accomplish. I don't think it helps score all that much, but others do.  With your monthly MyFICO updates you will be able to see for yourself.  

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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nyuphoto
Regular Contributor

Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%


@NRB525 wrote:

Congrats on all the improvements you have been making. You've got a good lineup of cards and loans with good limits. 

The AZEO method will eke out some extra points when it is time for your mortgage, although the number of actual points is variable per person. One thing you may want to consider while gardening, see how many points you actually get for AZEO, vs letting your cards report organically each month. AZEO takes some effort to accomplish. I don't think it helps score all that much, but others do.  With your monthly MyFICO updates you will be able to see for yourself.  


Thank you so much. These scores are with AZEO. Reason for the post was because I was moving the One posted balance from NFCU to the new Chase card but didn't think about the NFCU statement cutting before the Chase card. Which led to AZ. None the less thanks for the heads up, I appreciate all comments and suggestions from the forum and its members. 

Cards (In order of approval) TCL: 137k

Chase Home Mortgage 402k 3.25% 30yr | 10/2021 | AU  
App’d for my first CC in April 2020, hoping for a 3k SL… Anyone can turn their credit around.
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nyuphoto
Regular Contributor

Re: Experian FICO8 dropped 20 pts after Utilization went 2% to 0%

@Anonymous 

I've got an update to share. My scores all maximized and I ended up getting a new auto loan. I traded in a car that had an outstanding loan of 30k (40k starting) and financed the new vehicle for 41.5k. The 41.5k loan hit my credit reports 5 days before the 30k loan reported paid off. When the added auto loan reported on I had a small score decrease across the board 7pts +/- . But when the 30k loan reported paid off I took a large score drop across all 3 scores (14-20 pts). I understand I would lose points if I paid my only installment loan but I still have a mortgage and I replaced an auto with another auto installment. Will my scores recover any time soon? 

Cards (In order of approval) TCL: 137k

Chase Home Mortgage 402k 3.25% 30yr | 10/2021 | AU  
App’d for my first CC in April 2020, hoping for a 3k SL… Anyone can turn their credit around.
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