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FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!

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EW800
Valued Contributor

FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!

The FICO God's can sure be very temperamental!  I know every profile is different, however I received a SW alert this morning that my EQ score had gone up one point (717 to 718).  It appears that it was because of a CC balance that went from about $83 to $0.  Then about three hours later I get another SW Alert stating that my EQ score dropped one point (back down to 717) because of an account balance increase.  It was a CC balance that went from $0 to a whopping $8.  

 

Note to self, if a balance is reporting as $0, keep in there!   Smiley Happy   I have been trying to have $0 balances (except on one card that I keep well under 10%) before statements cut, but in this case I goofed and let the $8 report.  Smiley Happy

 

 

Year 2012: All Scores in the 520 range, during a foreclosure, CC Settlement and high UTIL. Very ugly days...
Sept 2024: EX8: 847; EQ8: 850; TU8: 848 -- Middle Mortgage Score: 821
In My Wallet: Discover $73.7K; Cap1 Venture $51.7K; Amex ED $38K; Amex Optima $2.5K; Amex Delta Gold $18K; Citi Costco $24.5K; Cap1 Plat $8.4K; Barclay $7K; Chase Amazon $6K; BoA Plat $21.6K; Citi TY Pref $22K; US Bank $4K; Dell $5K; Care Credit $6.5K. Total Revolving CL: $300K+
My UTIL: Less than 1% - Only allow about $20 a month to report, on one account. .
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mongstradamus
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Re: FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!


@EW800 wrote:

The FICO God's can sure be very temperamental!  I know every profile is different, however I received a SW alert this morning that my EQ score had gone up one point (717 to 718).  It appears that it was because of a CC balance that went from about $83 to $0.  Then about three hours later I get another SW Alert stating that my EQ score dropped one point (back down to 717) because of an account balance increase.  It was a CC balance that went from $0 to a whopping $8.  

 

Note to self, if a balance is reporting as $0, keep in there!   Smiley Happy   I have been trying to have $0 balances (except on one card that I keep well under 10%) before statements cut, but in this case I goofed and let the $8 report.  Smiley Happy

 

 


I had 0 utilization and eq decided to bring the hammer down on me. I lost like 27 points or so. I wasn't thrilled by that i am going to let my BCP report next week sometimes and see if i can gain some of those points back. The lesson i learned is au accounts don't count for utilization :-(



EX Fico 804 11/16/16 Fako 800 Credit.com 11/16/16
EQ SW bank enhanced 11/16/16 839 CK fako 822 11/16/16
TU Fico discover 10/19/16 814 Fako 819 Creditkarma 11/16/16
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fused
Moderator Emeritus

Re: FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!

Understanding FICO Scoring is an oxymoron.Smiley Very Happy

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!


@fused wrote:

Understanding FICO Scoring is an oxymoron.Smiley Very Happy


Quoted for Truth!

 

That said, a positive change followed by a counterbalancing negative change, in a short period of time, should be identical absolute value and zero out which appears to have been the case here.

 

Where I start head-scratching is when it doesn't follow that pattern like in my own data.  That's, well, irritating Smiley Happy.




        
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fused
Moderator Emeritus

Re: FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!


@Revelate wrote:

@fused wrote:

Understanding FICO Scoring is an oxymoron.Smiley Very Happy


Quoted for Truth!

 

That said, a positive change followed by a counterbalancing negative change, in a short period of time, should be identical absolute value and zero out which appears to have been the case here.

 

Where I start head-scratching is when it doesn't follow that pattern like in my own data.  That's, well, irritating Smiley Happy.


With the earlier FICO scoring formulas that was certainly true. Now that we're working with FICO 08 scores, I'm reluctant to answer many questions on FICO scoring. I feel like I'm totally new to FICO scoring...AGAIN.

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User5103
New Member

Re: FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!

Too tempermental!!! I purchased a plane ticket for $350 using a CC with a 2500 limit and my score went down. Eventhough my debt to credit ratio is less than 20%. Aparently what I heard about having a equal or less than 20% debt to credit ratio is a lie. Ughhh!!


Starting Score: 700
Current Score: 800
Goal Score: 850


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EW800
Valued Contributor

Re: FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!


@fused wrote:

Understanding FICO Scoring is an oxymoron.Smiley Very Happy


Amen to that!!

 

Year 2012: All Scores in the 520 range, during a foreclosure, CC Settlement and high UTIL. Very ugly days...
Sept 2024: EX8: 847; EQ8: 850; TU8: 848 -- Middle Mortgage Score: 821
In My Wallet: Discover $73.7K; Cap1 Venture $51.7K; Amex ED $38K; Amex Optima $2.5K; Amex Delta Gold $18K; Citi Costco $24.5K; Cap1 Plat $8.4K; Barclay $7K; Chase Amazon $6K; BoA Plat $21.6K; Citi TY Pref $22K; US Bank $4K; Dell $5K; Care Credit $6.5K. Total Revolving CL: $300K+
My UTIL: Less than 1% - Only allow about $20 a month to report, on one account. .
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EW800
Valued Contributor

Re: FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!


@Revelate wrote:
 

Where I start head-scratching is when it doesn't follow that pattern like in my own data.  That's, well, irritating Smiley Happy.



That is so true!  I am half-surprised that I did not see a larger drop than gain.  

 

In about a week, I will be putting about $700 on a Barclay Card to take advantage of the $0 intrest for two months or so, for some dental work for my wife.  Although my total UTIL will still be under 2% or so, I am sure I will take a bit of a score hit for this charge.  I plan to at least make sure that the balance is not more than $500 or so when the statement cuts so that the UTIL on this one card will be only about 7%, but I am sure I will take a temporary hit.  Smiley Sad  Thankfully, I have learned through this forum that UTIL has no memory.  

 

Year 2012: All Scores in the 520 range, during a foreclosure, CC Settlement and high UTIL. Very ugly days...
Sept 2024: EX8: 847; EQ8: 850; TU8: 848 -- Middle Mortgage Score: 821
In My Wallet: Discover $73.7K; Cap1 Venture $51.7K; Amex ED $38K; Amex Optima $2.5K; Amex Delta Gold $18K; Citi Costco $24.5K; Cap1 Plat $8.4K; Barclay $7K; Chase Amazon $6K; BoA Plat $21.6K; Citi TY Pref $22K; US Bank $4K; Dell $5K; Care Credit $6.5K. Total Revolving CL: $300K+
My UTIL: Less than 1% - Only allow about $20 a month to report, on one account. .
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fungoman
Regular Contributor

Re: FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!

Sw gives you your score every time it changes?

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EW800
Valued Contributor

Re: FICO Scoring - Very Temperamental!

It is supposed to whenever you set your target score to whatever your current score is. It then should let you know anytime it goes above or below that number.

Others can chime in, but I find it to not be perfect. I've seen some delays before it picks up changes to the credit report, which can delay the alerts - but IMHO good overall.
Year 2012: All Scores in the 520 range, during a foreclosure, CC Settlement and high UTIL. Very ugly days...
Sept 2024: EX8: 847; EQ8: 850; TU8: 848 -- Middle Mortgage Score: 821
In My Wallet: Discover $73.7K; Cap1 Venture $51.7K; Amex ED $38K; Amex Optima $2.5K; Amex Delta Gold $18K; Citi Costco $24.5K; Cap1 Plat $8.4K; Barclay $7K; Chase Amazon $6K; BoA Plat $21.6K; Citi TY Pref $22K; US Bank $4K; Dell $5K; Care Credit $6.5K. Total Revolving CL: $300K+
My UTIL: Less than 1% - Only allow about $20 a month to report, on one account. .
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