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FICO effects of adding the new $30K NFCU SSL

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CH-7-Mission-Accomplished
Valued Contributor

FICO effects of adding the new $30K NFCU SSL

As promised I'm reporting the FICO score changes from the opening my new SSL with NFCU.   I already have an auto loan paid down to $50/$30K that will last a few more years.

I expected to take a minor hit for a new account, but here are the specifics.   I pulled MyFICO 3B on 5/2 before the new SSL showed up and then again on 5/4 after the new SSL showed on all three reports.   

For those that were concerned NFCU has not decided to kill off my SSL and give me the 50 bucks.

5/2/2021 (Prior to new NFCU SSL $50/$30,000 reporting)
 
FICO Version 8

EQ - 776

TU - 770
EX - 775
 
Mortgage scores
EQ - 724
TU - 744
EX - 725
 
FICO Version 9
EQ - 841
TU - 816
EX - 800
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5/4/2021 (After new NFCU SSL $50/$30,000 reporting)
 
FICO Version 8
EQ - 776 - Unch
TU - 767 - (-3)
EX - 775 - Unch
 
Mortgage scores
EQ - 724 - Unch
TU - 744 - Unch
EX - 725 - Unch
 
FICO Version 9
EQ - 841 - Unch
TU - 812 (-4)
EX - 797 (-3)
 
 
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AllZero
Mega Contributor

Re: FICO effects of adding the new $30K NFCU SSL

Thank you for sharing the data points.
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babygirl1256
Senior Contributor

Re: FICO effects of adding the new $30K NFCU SSL

Thanks for sharing . . . great credit scores for rebuilding!!!

Starting FICO 8 Score in 06/2019: EQ-625, TU-649, EX-640
Current FICO 8 Score in 06/2021: EQ-796, TU-806, EX-812
Goal FICO 8 Score in 06/2022: EQ-825, TU-850, EX-850
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spiritcraft1
Valued Contributor

Re: FICO effects of adding the new $30K NFCU SSL

Thanks for sharing.  I take it that auto loan is NFCU???  I know their auto loans work like their SSL.  You could pay that auto loan off now actually and still be good.


Biz |
Current F08 -
Current 2,4,5 -
Current F09 -
No PG Biz Credit in Order of Approval - Uline, Quill, Grainger, SupplyWorks, MSC, Amsterdam, Citi Tractor Supply Rev .8k, NewEgg Net 30 10k, Richelieu 2k, Wurth Supply 2k, Global Ind 2k, Sam's Club Store 11.k, Shell Fleet 19.5k, Citi Exxon 2.5k, Dell Biz Revolving $15k, B&H Photo, $5k

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CH-7-Mission-Accomplished
Valued Contributor

Re: FICO effects of adding the new $30K NFCU SSL


@spiritcraft1 wrote:

Thanks for sharing.  I take it that auto loan is NFCU???  I know their auto loans work like their SSL.  You could pay that auto loan off now actually and still be good.


The auto loan is actually through Alliant.   Their loans push out the next payment due date.   

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: FICO effects of adding the new $30K NFCU SSL

50/30?
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CH-7-Mission-Accomplished
Valued Contributor

Re: FICO effects of adding the new $30K NFCU SSL


@Anonymous wrote:
50/30?

$50.00 balance on $30,000 loan amount.   

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spiritcraft1
Valued Contributor

Re: FICO effects of adding the new $30K NFCU SSL


@CH-7-Mission-Accomplished wrote:

@spiritcraft1 wrote:

Thanks for sharing.  I take it that auto loan is NFCU???  I know their auto loans work like their SSL.  You could pay that auto loan off now actually and still be good.


The auto loan is actually through Alliant.   Their loans push out the next payment due date.   


Thanks for that DP... 


Biz |
Current F08 -
Current 2,4,5 -
Current F09 -
No PG Biz Credit in Order of Approval - Uline, Quill, Grainger, SupplyWorks, MSC, Amsterdam, Citi Tractor Supply Rev .8k, NewEgg Net 30 10k, Richelieu 2k, Wurth Supply 2k, Global Ind 2k, Sam's Club Store 11.k, Shell Fleet 19.5k, Citi Exxon 2.5k, Dell Biz Revolving $15k, B&H Photo, $5k

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CH-7-Mission-Accomplished
Valued Contributor

Confessions of an installment loan failure

So a couple of months back I shared how I had gotten a 35K SSL from Navy, due in 15 years, and paid it down to $50.    I was chastised by a lot of people for paying it down too far.   Well it's still standing.   But I do think I should have paid it down to only $500.

 

BUT I also had an auto loan from Alliant Credit Union.   The loan was opened 01/2019 for 31K and I paid it down to $50.   Next payment due in July 2024.

 

Guess what?   Alliant wrote off the $50 balance.    I spent a lot of time trying to reach them, the frontline people had no idea what I was talking about, and finally somebody from loan servicing contacted me and said they just wanted to do me a favor so I could get my title right away.   I explained to them that I appreciated the courtesy, but I was wanting that loan to last until 07/24.   I also asked if they could reinstate the loan, and they said they could, but it might screw up my payment history or whatever.   I just thanked them for their courtesy.   I tried to explain to them about the whole 7.9% thing and they just glazed over and told me that nobody knows how FICO works.   My payment had been $477.   I should have left the balance at $500 because I don't think they would write that off as a courtesy.

But since I only owe $50 on my $35K SSL from Navy, I decided to open a new SSL with Navy for 25K.   It's only good for 5 years.   I paid it down to $500.   Meanwhile the $50 SSL is still there.

Before people jump all over me, I want to point out that if you open a $500 SSL, and pay it down to 7.9%,  you would only owe Navy $39.50.   So my little $50 balance is a lot more than your $39.50 balance -- so Navy should be just as inclined to write off your $39.50 balance as my $50 balance.

And I have no allusions that Alliant was doing me a favor.   They simply decided that the cost of servicing a loan with a $50 balance for three more years was more expensive than just writing it off.   And this would be the case with your Navy SSL for $39.50/$500.

So I promised that if I got nailed on a low balance installment loan that was written off, I would fess up.   So this is my confession.

For those wondering why the new 25K SSL, my whole goal is to hit 850 the day my BK7 falls off, which will be two years from August (less early exclusion).   I don't want any new loans or credit cards for a full 24 months prior to that date.   And if Navy wrote off that $50 SSL, I would have to open a new SSL during a period less than 24 months from BK7 falloff date.

So lesson learned.

 

https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Opened-my-30K-SSL-with-Navy-for-almost-15-years/m-...

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Confessions of an installment loan failure


@CH-7-Mission-Accomplished wrote:

So a couple of months back I shared how I had gotten a 35K SSL from Navy, due in 15 years, and paid it down to $50.    I was chastised by a lot of people for paying it down too far.   Well it's still standing.   But I do think I should have paid it down to only $500.

 

BUT I also had an auto loan from Alliant Credit Union.   The loan was opened 01/2019 for 31K and I paid it down to $50.   Next payment due in July 2024.

 

Guess what?   Alliant wrote off the $50 balance.    I spent a lot of time trying to reach them, the frontline people had no idea what I was talking about, and finally somebody from loan servicing contacted me and said they just wanted to do me a favor so I could get my title right away.   I explained to them that I appreciated the courtesy, but I was wanting that loan to last until 07/24.   I also asked if they could reinstate the loan, and they said they could, but it might screw up my payment history or whatever.   I just thanked them for their courtesy.   I tried to explain to them about the whole 7.9% thing and they just glazed over and told me that nobody knows how FICO works.   My payment had been $477.   I should have left the balance at $500 because I don't think they would write that off as a courtesy.

But since I only owe $50 on my $35K SSL from Navy, I decided to open a new SSL with Navy for 25K.   It's only good for 5 years.   I paid it down to $500.   Meanwhile the $50 SSL is still there.

Before people jump all over me, I want to point out that if you open a $500 SSL, and pay it down to 7.9%,  you would only owe Navy $39.50.   So my little $50 balance is a lot more than your $39.50 balance -- so Navy should be just as inclined to write off your $39.50 balance as my $50 balance.

And I have no allusions that Alliant was doing me a favor.   They simply decided that the cost of servicing a loan with a $50 balance for three more years was more expensive than just writing it off.   And this would be the case with your Navy SSL for $39.50/$500.

So I promised that if I got nailed on a low balance installment loan that was written off, I would fess up.   So this is my confession.

For those wondering why the new 25K SSL, my whole goal is to hit 850 the day my BK7 falls off, which will be two years from August (less early exclusion).   I don't want any new loans or credit cards for a full 24 months prior to that date.   And if Navy wrote off that $50 SSL, I would have to open a new SSL during a period less than 24 months from BK7 falloff date.

So lesson learned.

 

https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Personal-Finance/Opened-my-30K-SSL-with-Navy-for-almost-15-years/m-...


You're better off this way.

(a) It's better to have a clean title. Sometimes it can be complicated getting that taken care of.

(b) There's no scoring benefit in your FICO 8's and 9's from having 2 mostly paid off loans vs having 1 mostly paid off loan.

(c) There might be some scoring benefit in your mortgage scores from having one less account with a balance.

(d) Your DTI is significantly lowered.

(e) You received a $50 gift.

 

All I would be saying to Alliant is "thank you very much".


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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