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Hello everybody, I am very new to this forum but I turn here for help after countless hours on the phone with experien and freecreditreport.com etc. and nobody can give me an exponation that makes any sense.
My discovered that about 2-3 weeks ago my fico dropped by 26 points for no obvious reason and I am trying to figure out why. I dont know what information to provide you with in order for someone to be able to help so I will appreciate if someome takes the time to actually help me understand the whole system. I have one late payment over 2 years ago and thats the only thing i can think of as negative on my report.
Thank you in advance!
Did you pay off your cards or any loans in full? Welcome to the forum.
Total CL: $321.7k | UTL: 2% | AAoA: 7.0yrs | Baddies: 0 | Other: Lease, Loan, *No Mortgage, All Inq's from Jun '20 Car Shopping |
Thank you for your reply.
I do have copy of my report but I dont see anything that would trigger the drop. After I spoke with a lady of experian she told me actually the late payment which was 28 months ago would have cuased which makes no sense to me and I dont buy that.
The lates significant change to my report was back in january when I had a lender pulled my credit to check my ability to purchase a second property. Nothing major have happened since january, no late payments, no new accounts, the car loan was paid off more than a year ago, my revolvind debt is at 16% usage out of 28k limit. I do have a HELOC which ive been paying off for more than a year and it was never late I mean I really dont know what the problem is here. I have more details off the credit report let me know if I need to provide more information in order to get some kind of an idea of where to look for the reason.
Thanks
I do have a small credit line with AMEX that its was paid off long time ago and I have not used it in the past maybe 3 years and a home depot card that I have not been using in the past 3 years that its also completely paid off, should I close these accounts or maintaing some balance? whats should I do with them, I dont have any plans on using these two cards
@Anonymous wrote:I do have a small credit line with AMEX that its was paid off long time ago and I have not used it in the past maybe 3 years and a home depot card that I have not been using in the past 3 years that its also completely paid off, should I close these accounts or maintaing some balance? whats should I do with them, I dont have any plans on using these two cards
IF you're paying an AF on them, typically close it (unless the AF is trivial to you like my $25 Zync which admittedly I more than make up for with Amex offers), otherwise leave it open and use it occasionally to keep the lender from closing it for inactivity is the typically recommended solution... or if it irritates you, just close it.
To your original point, where did you get your scores from specifically, and what was the original score and what's the current one?
To be fair I'd really need to see the before and after reports to be able to tell you anything concrete, there's just so many variables potentially involved; if it was from freecreditreport are you sure it's an Experian FICO score that you received? If it was one of EX's educational scores like the National Equivalency Score they peddle traditionally through their 3rd party sites, all bets are off; however, EX has been rolling out more and more FICO products and I haven't kept track of them.
One curiosity question, what's HELOC current balance / limit?
I don't see anywhere where the OP stated which FICO score he's talking about (I'm assuming 08), which bureau he saw the drop on and/or where he got the first score from and the second score. This information to me is important to know prior to doing any sort of diagnostic work. It could be something as simple as glitch and his score may return to where it was previously. That's been happening a lot lately to many people on this forum. I've experienced score glitches with both TU and EQ in the last 60 days.
If I condisder closing these 2 cards will that have negative impact on my credit and if it does will impact it for a long time or..?
on the original topic: I got the score from freecredireport, it is a FICO8 score and the original score was 726 and now is 704. The HELOC is 43700 balance of 45k limit, i just pay the montly payment with automatic payments. If you need to see more details from my report, what exactly do you need from the report, do I type it here or...
Thank you for taking the time, obviously I dont know much about all this.
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@Anonymous wrote:I do have a small credit line with AMEX that its was paid off long time ago and I have not used it in the past maybe 3 years and a home depot card that I have not been using in the past 3 years that its also completely paid off, should I close these accounts or maintaing some balance? whats should I do with them, I dont have any plans on using these two cards
IF you're paying an AF on them, typically close it (unless the AF is trivial to you like my $25 Zync which admittedly I more than make up for with Amex offers), otherwise leave it open and use it occasionally to keep the lender from closing it for inactivity is the typically recommended solution... or if it irritates you, just close it.
To your original point, where did you get your scores from specifically, and what was the original score and what's the current one?
To be fair I'd really need to see the before and after reports to be able to tell you anything concrete, there's just so many variables potentially involved; if it was from freecreditreport are you sure it's an Experian FICO score that you received? If it was one of EX's educational scores like the National Equivalency Score they peddle traditionally through their 3rd party sites, all bets are off; however, EX has been rolling out more and more FICO products and I haven't kept track of them.
One curiosity question, what's HELOC current balance / limit?
@Anonymous wrote:I don't see anywhere where the OP stated which FICO score he's talking about (I'm assuming 08), which bureau he saw the drop on and/or where he got the first score from and the second score. This information to me is important to know prior to doing any sort of diagnostic work. It could be something as simple as glitch and his score may return to where it was previously. That's been happening a lot lately to many people on this forum. I've experienced score glitches with both TU and EQ in the last 60 days.
Thank you for your reply.
Yes the score was from FICO8 and I got both scores from Experian
Do both explicitly say FICO on them? For giggles check the Discover free score that's posted here as that explicitly is an EX FICO 8 score and freecreditscore traditionally has sold a whole bunch of crap in addition to a FICO score, I'd want to make sure I was comparing apples to apples.
The HELOC may or may not be factored into revolving utilization, not sure if the 43/45K puts it above the current line where it would get discounted or counted as installment, but if you've had it for a year it's not that... or at least probably not that, it's impossible to really state how FICO treats HELOCs right now without a lot more data which we don't have.
I'd double-check they were the same score version, and after that probably just /shrug and go on with life. There may have been some detail in the tradelines reporting which caused it (dispute or similar) and you'd have to look with a fine tooth comb to really find it.
I will ask, do you know what your AAOA and oldest account are? This is more to whether the HELOC is factoring in as a 30 day late from that long ago if that's your only negative shouldn't likely have your score at 706 unless you don't have much history... for example I'm above that with far worse negatives on my report without tremendously awesome history either.