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@Anonymous wrote:Then I lost 5 points when chase reported a higher balance bringing my aggregate utilization from 11 to 15%. Some thought it had to do with # of cards reporting a balance but 4/6 reported balance in January & February.so that couldn’t have been it. I then gained 2 points back on February 15 when an inquiry became unscoreable. ( 677-> 679).
Now today when PNC reported lower balance... my utilization went from 15 to 14% and I’m up 4 points... 683 now.
No other change in regards to account age, negatives or inquires.
I know everyone talks about 8.9% 28.9% etc etc but this is twice now I’ve seen changes way around outside those numbers. This one and one other time when I went from 6 to 4%
Oh this is really good data for a hypothesis I have about utilization intervals.
The 4% utilization threshold I see on my scorecard (EX 8 +3 when at/or under) may be there at the higher intervals:
[10, 19], so [10,14] and (14,19]. (Parentheses exclusive, Brackets inclusive.)
What is your current utilization as you calculate it, using (total balances / total limits)? If it's less than or equal to 0.14 that would be some strong supporting evidence.
I lose a single cute point on EX when aggregate goes from 4% to 5%.
That's with less than 50% of cards reporting, all under 29%.
No change from 5% to 9%. A few additional points if aggregate is between 9% and 15%, roughly around 7 points.
Unsure what happens after that, never reported more than that.
January 31-Feb 15
Chase $1787.31 / $6900
PNC. $1486.65 / $12500
credit one $8.25/$300
QS $0 / $600
QS1 $39/$2250
Discover $1651.48/$11500
aggregate 14.6% rounded up to 15% on the report.
Between yesterday and today the only other change from the above mentioned was the PNC going to $1293.27
current aggregste is 14.03%
@Anonymous wrote:January 31-Feb 15
Chase $1787.31 / $6900
PNC. $1486.65 / $12500
credit one $8.25/$300
QS $0 / $600
QS1 $39/$2250
Discover $1651.48/$11500
aggregate 14.6% rounded up to 15% on the report.
That would be 15% for FICO scoring as well. The only time they mismatch is when utilization is in some (x.0, x.5) interval - the front-ends round down while FICO is taking the ceiling (x.0 +1) and using whole numbers for the actual comparison.
Still might be something to that 5% midway point. I just saw that on EX 2 with a 8% to 5% aggregate change. (7.42 to 4.90 actual.)
EDIT TO ADD: Just saw that 14.03 - also 15% anyway.
So this means I got a random 4 point increase from yesterday to today?
My Pnc card went from 11.89 to 10.03% but I’m sure that’s not anything
@Anonymous wrote:So this means I got a random 4 point increase from yesterday to today?
My Pnc card went from 11.89 to 10.03% but I’m sure that’s not anything
No, I still think it's related to aggregate utilization since that's the only thing that changed.
You may have just identified a 15% threshold (at or below). Thanks for taking the time to post all of that and confirm the actual utilization!