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Fico 8 Score vs Fico Score 5 for Mortgages

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Anonymous
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Fico 8 Score vs Fico Score 5 for Mortgages

Hello,

Can anyone help explain why my Fico 8 score can be good, but then my "Mortgage" score is so much lower.  I have even seen my Fico 8 go up but then my Fico 5 Mortgage score go down. So confusing. I am working so hard to raise lending score to get better interest rate.

TIA for all answers.

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Fico 8 Score vs Fico Score 5 for Mortgages


@Anonymous wrote:

Hello,

Can anyone help explain why my Fico 8 score can be good, but then my "Mortgage" score is so much lower.  I have even seen my Fico 8 go up but then my Fico 5 Mortgage score go down. So confusing. I am working so hard to raise lending score to get better interest rate.

TIA for all answers.


My FICO 5 is always much lower than my FICO 8. For example, in my last report it was 47 points lower.

 

One way to see what's hurting is to compare the negative reason codes in each. If the FICO 5 is complaining about certain things which FICO 8 is not complaining about, that gives you a clue as to its priorities.

 

From what I've been able to scratch together, here are some things which I think are true:


-installment utilization not important in 5
-accounts open not important in 5, closed accounts count for credit mix
-youngest account aging to 6 mos is a major event in 5
-5 is more sensitive to # cards reporting balance
-5 is more sensitive to revolving account utilization

-5 is more sensitive to recent new accounts
-5 is more sensitive to recent inquiries
-5 is more sensitive to the number of cards reporting a balance (as opposed to reporting a zero balance)

 So I guess the best way to bring your FICO 5 up is to:

 

(a) Not apply for anything that might trigger a hard pull

(b) Not open anything new

(c) Try to get all but one of your revolving accounts down to zero

 


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Anonymous
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Re: Fico 8 Score vs Fico Score 5 for Mortgages

I dont have access to my FICO 5, but my FICO 4 always runs about 45 points lower than my FICO 8 and that's with my profile more or less maxed out in terms of scoring factors... Age of accounts factors ideal, no inquiries, AZEO in place, one installment loan, etc.
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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: Fico 8 Score vs Fico Score 5 for Mortgages

EQ Fico score 5 = EQ Fico 04 (very sensitive to # cards reporting balances) _ "mortgage Fico"

TU Fico score 4 = TU Fico 04 (somewhat sensitive to # cards reporting balances) - "mortgage Fico"

EX Fico score 3 = EX Fico 04 (minimal sensitivity to # cards reporting balances) - obscure Fico

EX Fico score 2 = EX Fico 98 (somewhat sensitive to # cards reporting balances) - "mortgage Fico"

 

See table of max real world Fico scores here:

https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/The-many-flavors-of-FICO-Editions-versio...

 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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