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Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.

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CreditInspired
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Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.


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CreditInspired
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Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.


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CreditSage
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Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.

I have some high utilization on three cards right now and want to bring them down. I do not think I will be able to bring them to <8.9% or <30% just yet. I did not gather this from your response so I wanted to double check.. are there any other thresholds which will produce a gain? Thanks in advance.

 

Two of the cards I can probably take care of. The third has a $5,300 limit with $5,100 utilization. What is the best bang for the buck I can get (i.e. least payment highest return)? Thanks

Current Open: NFCU AMEX $6,800 CL | Chase Freedom $3,800 CL | QS1 $1,300 CL | BankAmericard $24,000 CL (AU) | NFCU SSL $3,000 |
FICO 8 EXP, EQ, TU: 675-715 (depending on Utl.) | AAoA 3 Years 3 Months | AoYA 0 Months

Closed: American Honda Finance Installment $16,000 paid satisfactorily | Capital One Secured $700 paid satisfactorily | Wells Fargo credit card $3,000 paid charge off settled less than full amount (badie 2015) | Bank of America credit card $1,000 paid charge off settled less than full amount (badie 2015)
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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.


@CreditSage wrote:

I have some high utilization on three cards right now and want to bring them down. I do not think I will be able to bring them to <8.9% or <30% just yet. I did not gather this from your response so I wanted to double check.. are there any other thresholds which will produce a gain? Thanks in advance.

 

Two of the cards I can probably take care of. The third has a $5,300 limit with $5,100 utilization. What is the best bang for the buck I can get (i.e. least payment highest return)? Thanks


To get a clear answer, it would be best if you could list out all your revolving credit cards; for each card the limit, amount owed currently, and APR.

There is some benefit to getting out of the highest utilization, in this case 96%, to find a way to bring that down. Getting all cards lower is always best, but the highest utilization card will be the sore thumb in your score, so keeping that "worst case" item coming down is what is going to have the most effect on your scores.

 

Overall utilization is also important to keep an eye on, thus the request to know all your limits, to see what total utilization is. Bringing that down is another way to improve scores.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.


@CreditSage wrote:

I have some high utilization on three cards right now and want to bring them down. I do not think I will be able to bring them to <8.9% or <30% just yet. I did not gather this from your response so I wanted to double check.. are there any other thresholds which will produce a gain? Thanks in advance.

 

Two of the cards I can probably take care of. The third has a $5,300 limit with $5,100 utilization. What is the best bang for the buck I can get (i.e. least payment highest return)? Thanks


48% is a good one.


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 684 EX 682




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CreditSage
Regular Contributor

Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.

Thanks. Where are you getting the 48% percent number from? Also, is there a higher bracket - I might want to pay down less.

Current Open: NFCU AMEX $6,800 CL | Chase Freedom $3,800 CL | QS1 $1,300 CL | BankAmericard $24,000 CL (AU) | NFCU SSL $3,000 |
FICO 8 EXP, EQ, TU: 675-715 (depending on Utl.) | AAoA 3 Years 3 Months | AoYA 0 Months

Closed: American Honda Finance Installment $16,000 paid satisfactorily | Capital One Secured $700 paid satisfactorily | Wells Fargo credit card $3,000 paid charge off settled less than full amount (badie 2015) | Bank of America credit card $1,000 paid charge off settled less than full amount (badie 2015)
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CreditSage
Regular Contributor

Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.

Thanks. Here are the numbers..

 

Note: I closed the secured card today (below $700 limit) so that one will be zeroed out shortly.

 

Bank of America $500/$17,000 - 3%

Capital One $1,278/$1,300 - 98%

Capital One $679/$700 - 97%

NFCU Amex $5,205/$5,300 - 98%

 

 

Current Open: NFCU AMEX $6,800 CL | Chase Freedom $3,800 CL | QS1 $1,300 CL | BankAmericard $24,000 CL (AU) | NFCU SSL $3,000 |
FICO 8 EXP, EQ, TU: 675-715 (depending on Utl.) | AAoA 3 Years 3 Months | AoYA 0 Months

Closed: American Honda Finance Installment $16,000 paid satisfactorily | Capital One Secured $700 paid satisfactorily | Wells Fargo credit card $3,000 paid charge off settled less than full amount (badie 2015) | Bank of America credit card $1,000 paid charge off settled less than full amount (badie 2015)
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.


@CreditSage wrote:

Thanks. Where are you getting the 48% percent number from? Also, is there a higher bracket - I might want to pay down less.


From things I've read in this forum. And yes there are a couple of higher thresholds.

 

But you're not going to get really good points until you're below 30%.


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 684 EX 682




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Anonymous
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Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.


@CreditSage wrote:

 

Bank of America $500/$17,000 - 3%

Capital One $1,278/$1,300 - 98%

Capital One $679/$700 - 97%

NFCU Amex $5,205/$5,300 - 98%

 


As an intial goal, I'd set out to pay the 3 maxed out utilization cards down to roughly 68%.  Doing so would require around $2200, as you'd need to pay about $400 to the first card, $200 to the second and $1600 to the third. 

 

It also looks like you're at around 32% overall utilization now.  Bringing those 3 cards down to 68% utilization individually would allow you to cross the 28.9% threshold on aggregate utilization and then some, as you'd end around 23% utilization after the proposed paydown. 

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Fico score and credit card utilization...just making sure I’ve got this right.


@Anonymous wrote:

@CreditSage wrote:

 

Bank of America $500/$17,000 - 3%

Capital One $1,278/$1,300 - 98%

Capital One $679/$700 - 97%

NFCU Amex $5,205/$5,300 - 98%

 


As an intial goal, I'd set out to pay the 3 maxed out utilization cards down to roughly 68%.  Doing so would require around $2200, as you'd need to pay about $400 to the first card, $200 to the second and $1600 to the third. 

 

It also looks like you're at around 32% overall utilization now.  Bringing those 3 cards down to 68% utilization individually would allow you to cross the 28.9% threshold on aggregate utilization and then some, as you'd end around 23% utilization after the proposed paydown. 


This. Paying down is best. OP is really completely maxed out on those three cards. There is barely room for an interest charge.

 

A suggestion might be to try to BT some over to the Bank of America card, but that risks spooking BofA, and getting a CLD from $17k to something less. Two of the balance chased accounts I had were BofA, and they worked the limits down for a few years until they got more comfortable with my balances.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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