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HUGE difference in FICO Scores!

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HUGE difference in FICO Scores!

I am lost as to why my FICO scores are SO different on my EQ report. I have pulled all three as recent as today and there is a significant difference in scores. Here are my score breakdowns and I will mention what is different on each.

 

TU: 661

EXP: 663

EQ: 595

 

TU and EXP are pretty much the same. Except for old closed paid accounts. The only significant differences I can see are these:

1. On EQ I have two Capital One CO (they report on TU and EXP), however on EQ in the account payment history I see 42 90+ days late. This does not show on TU and EXP. This may simply be a difference in the way TU and EXP report CO? However I also have a First Premier CO that does NOT report that many lates on EQ.....

2. On EQ I have 8xNote loans. These are basically installment loans with 1 month terms that close out as paid every month and re-open a new loan with the balance. I am pretty sure these are hurting me because of the new account ding? And I have seen that paying off a installment loans hurts your score? I am not sure of this.

 

Those are the major two things I can see different on my reports. What is going on here? I am leaning towards it being the Capital One COs showing 42 90+ lates. How would I correct this if its not correct? Why are they reporting this way and not this way on TU and EXP? The information Capital One has I am sure is the same they send to all the CR...

 

Thanks in ANY inpute or assistance.

 

Xace

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NRB525
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Re: HUGE difference in FICO Scores!

So, if I read this correctly, they dinged you with 42 separate reported events of 90+ lates? Did you get out of sync on your payments somehow? Because that would really be the only explanation, since 42 payments is basically 3.5 years.

 

What has happened to some folks in the past, they miss one payment, it goes 90 days so they have 3 missed payments, they start making payments again, and it is credited to the first missed payment, not the more recent two. Those recent two begin to age, so the second missed payment gets the second late payment, records a 90 day late and stops, but the most recent payment starts counting a 30 - 60 - 90 series until it is shown "paid" in two or 3 months.

 

This might be something to consider emailing the Capital One EO to see about consolidating those. It's really only the first payment that gets 90 days late, because after that, technically the payments are being made. Contacting them about consolidating also helps to cure the most recent lates, since they may be considered "on time" and removed, not reported as 90 days late anymore.

 

It's going to be a chore to solve, but in answer to your original question, with all these baddies polluting your report, any score analysis is not going to give you any usable answers.

 

 

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: HUGE difference in FICO Scores!


@NRB525 wrote:

So, if I read this correctly, they dinged you with 42 separate reported events of 90+ lates? Did you get out of sync on your payments somehow? Because that would really be the only explanation, since 42 payments is basically 3.5 years.

 

What has happened to some folks in the past, they miss one payment, it goes 90 days so they have 3 missed payments, they start making payments again, and it is credited to the first missed payment, not the more recent two. Those recent two begin to age, so the second missed payment gets the second late payment, records a 90 day late and stops, but the most recent payment starts counting a 30 - 60 - 90 series until it is shown "paid" in two or 3 months.

 

This might be something to consider emailing the Capital One EO to see about consolidating those. It's really only the first payment that gets 90 days late, because after that, technically the payments are being made. Contacting them about consolidating also helps to cure the most recent lates, since they may be considered "on time" and removed, not reported as 90 days late anymore.

 

It's going to be a chore to solve, but in answer to your original question, with all these baddies polluting your report, any score analysis is not going to give you any usable answers.

 

 


The account is charged-off and paid.

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NRB525
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Re: HUGE difference in FICO Scores!

Ok, that may be in the real world, but on your credit report (at least one bureau) it shows a boatload of 90 day lates? Or I misread that in your original post?

 

All the individual negatives on your file contribute to the reductions in scores. You may know them as something like one event, but if they get reported multiple times, they are multiple events as far as the scoring model works. You may see one of them fall off, but if 41 remain, you have to wait for all 41 to fall off, or take action to remove them by contacting the CCC.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: HUGE difference in FICO Scores!

If you are charged off and paid the best recourse is: calls to EO and goodwill letters. It appears (on the surface) you have a legit discrepency but as you have already paid the debt, you may have more traction playing nice and asking them to remove all. Disputing (I imagine) erroneous lates will simply poke the bear.

 

As NRB alluded, defining a convulted score is challenging, even if you provided all your stats. It is much more prudent to focus on removing the negatives over the variance

 

Good Luck!

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