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Hello
I am hopeful to get some guidance and better understanding on the current discrepancies amongst my mortgage scores and some hopeful guidance on what I can do to bump up my mid score for a refinance.
my current mortgage scores according to today's myfo pull are the following:
Equifax: 661 (fico 8: 721)
Transunion: 647 (fico 8: 710)
Experian: 764 (fico 8- 699)
I cannot seem to raise these scores much higher and I really do not know what else to do at this point. My utilization is at 35%, I can bring that down some more but want to be mindful not to deplete my cash reserves if the scores do not jump much higher. I do have a 30 day late that will hit the one year mark in April, and another from over 5 years ago. I have attempted to get these removed through GW and haven't had success up until this point. Other than that my report is clean.
I have tried to research and cannot seem to get a solid answer as to what factors the mortgage scoring has in place that is causing such a wide discrepancy so I can remedy. The really odd one for me is that my experian score is my lowest 8 version but is well over 100 points higher at 764 compared to the other two mortgage scores. I have scanned my report and all three report consistently.
I appreciate any help & guidance that can be given. Thank you!
Not knowing your exact details, below are benchmarks for FICO 8. Scores lenders use for mortgage are EX2, TU4, EQ5; should react similarly.
Remember these aggregate utilization thresholds: 8.9%, 28.9%, 48.9%, 68.9%, 88.9%
If you're not crossing a threshold, you won't be getting points.
Aggregate: 10-15 points for aggregate crossing a threshold.
Individual: ~5 points points for individual crossing a threshold.
Look into AZEO Technique. All Zero Except One card reporting a small balance e.g. $5-$10. Use a bank card. Do not use a store card.
Get your CC aggregate utility at or below 8.9% for full FICO points optimization.
Scores will react positively with one revolving credit card reporting a balance.
You might want to address any derogatory you have; delinquency, charge off, collection, etc. If they are updating monthly, it'll keep your scores suppressed.
Thank you for the thorough response! If I am reading this correctly I need to get overall utilization down below 28% and should see a 10-15% bump. Similar to that every card that every card applies the same, so for every card that is above said threshold I should see a bump when brought under.
what I find odd is that my score 8 is roughly 60 points higher in each.. but more than anything my experian is mortgage score is at a 764 in comparison to the other two with the same exact file.. I seriously cannot figure out why.
I would like to get to a 700+ mid score (ideally higher), but not sure I can do that without depleting too much of my savings.
Thank you for the thorough response! If I am reading this correctly I need to get overall utilization down below 28% and should see a 10-15 point bump. Similar to that applies to each individual card the same, so for every card that is above said threshold I should see a 5 point bump when brought under.
what I find odd is that my score 8 is roughly 60 points higher in each.. but more than anything my experian is mortgage score is at a 764 in comparison to the other two with the same exact file.. I seriously cannot figure out why.
I would like to get to a 700+ mid score (ideally higher), but not sure I can do that without depleting too much of my savings.
@jwpezd wrote:My utilization is at 35%
What is your current reported individual and aggregate utilization %?
@jwpezd wrote:Thank you for the thorough response! If I am reading this correctly I need to get overall utilization down below 28% and should see a 10-15% bump. Similar to that every card that every card applies the same, so for every card that is above said threshold I should see a bump when brought under.
Yes, you need to reduce your utilization. Once you cross a scoring threshold is when you will see a score improvement. Ideally, 8.9% and under for aggregate utilization and individual utilization should not exceed 28.9% is optimal.
what I find odd is that my score 8 is roughly 60 points higher in each.. but more than anything my experian is mortgage score is at a 764 in comparison to the other two with the same exact file.. I seriously cannot figure out why.
You'll have to scan your Experian reports versus TU and EQ and compare the differences; e.g. accounts, age of accounts, derogatories, delinquencies, etc.
I would like to get to a 700+ mid score (ideally higher), but not sure I can do that without depleting too much of my savings.
List your individual and aggregate utilization %. Then, we can determine if it's possible.
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Aggregate is 35% if I am understanding that is the overall utilization.
individual is the following
1 card is at 65%- highest balance but can pay down below 48%
1 card is at 23%
1 card (PayPal) is at 71% can pay below 48%
1 card is at 68% lower balance, can pay in full or below 28%
1 card (Home Depot) is at 23%
1 card is at 51% can pay down easily
4 other cards that are paid off or at 1% or less
My total revolving limit is 108k, and currently have 34k in balances.
@jwpezd wrote:Aggregate is 35% if I am understanding that is the overall utilization.
individual is the following
1 card is at 65%- highest balance but can pay down below 48%
1 card is at 23%
1 card (PayPal) is at 71% can pay below 48%1 card is at 68% lower balance, can pay in full or below 28%
1 card (Home Depot) is at 23%1 card is at 51% can pay down easily
4 other cards that are paid off or at 1% or less
My total revolving limit is 108k, and currently have 34k in balances.
Work on the low dollar accounts. The more accounts you can bring to zero would be great. The older scoring models EX2, TU4, EQ5 like AZEO All Zero Except One card reporting a balance.
It appears you had 100% of accounts reporting a balance? Try for under 50% of accounts reporting a balance, then 20% of accounts reporting a balance.
For individual accounts; get it under 68.9% then 48.9% then 28.9% and so forth.
I understand you are wanting to keep $ for reserves. You'll have to find a balance on that and paying off your debt to improve your score.
Your outstanding debt and your DTI Debt To Income will come into play. Talk to a loan officer for best course of action.