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How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

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Anonymous
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How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

How do authorized user accounts impact one's credit score? If I have two cards, a 5 year old card for which I am responsible with an 80% utilization and no late payments, and the other a 3.5 year old card with 25% utilization also with no late payments on which I am an authorized user.

 

Is the authorized user card helping me (utilization), hurting me (age of accounts) or having no impact?

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RSX
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Re: How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

right now it is helping you 

 

it is lowering your overall Util

Dec 16/2019. EX. 721. EQ. 723. TU 746
Jan 25/2024 EX. 774 EQ. 751 TU 758
Inq. EX 2 EQ 3 TU 6 - - CC 2x24, 0x12
Amex BCP $35k - Apple GS $21k - BMW/Elan $19k - Cap1 QS $16.7k - Chase Amazon $13.6k - Chase Bonvoy Bountiful $10k - Chase United Club Infinite $26k - Citi CustomCash $3k - Citi DC $14.5k - CreditUnion1 $9k - DiscoverIT $31.5k - PayBoo - $15.6k - Penfed Gold - $19.3k - USB AltitudeGO -$19k- USBank Cash+ -$25k - PenFed LOC - $20k - USB LOC - $15k
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RSX
Valued Contributor

Re: How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

not having any further info, i would suggest you

 

pay down your own card to below 9% - wait for it to report to all CR's

then apply for another card

 

after this you will be able to remove yourself from the AU and go it on your own

Dec 16/2019. EX. 721. EQ. 723. TU 746
Jan 25/2024 EX. 774 EQ. 751 TU 758
Inq. EX 2 EQ 3 TU 6 - - CC 2x24, 0x12
Amex BCP $35k - Apple GS $21k - BMW/Elan $19k - Cap1 QS $16.7k - Chase Amazon $13.6k - Chase Bonvoy Bountiful $10k - Chase United Club Infinite $26k - Citi CustomCash $3k - Citi DC $14.5k - CreditUnion1 $9k - DiscoverIT $31.5k - PayBoo - $15.6k - Penfed Gold - $19.3k - USB AltitudeGO -$19k- USBank Cash+ -$25k - PenFed LOC - $20k - USB LOC - $15k
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AzCreditGuy
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Re: How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

In my case a 19 to 25 pt difference to my Fico score, Transunion doesnt report my 2 AU accounts I am on. 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

Being an authorized user will harm you, if the specific account carries a high balance from the original debtor.
If your an authorized user, it should be on an account that is paid off frequently, or has a very low balance compared to available credit.
Being an authorized user only helps if there's an extensive credit line, with small balance.

Let's say if an account holder has a credit line of $500.00, but uses more than $120.00 of the total amount it will hurt your score. Yet if they stay below that threshold of not more than 30%, then it can help you.
Ideally, it's best to be an authorized user on accounts that have a much higher credit line, and low balances. But used often.

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CreditBob
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Re: How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

I listened to the VP over FICO scoring in regards to authorized user accounts. These type of trade lines only are beneficial to the score under these two situations. One, it has to be parent to immediate children. Second, is spouse to spouse. If an AU comes from a friend, other family member, or has been purchased from a company, the algorithm in the new scoring models, 8-9-10, then it will not work.

 

The second half of the issue are the lenders. They want to see you be fully responsible for your own credit history by means of secured or unsecured cards in your name, or you have a cosigned account. Authorized user accounts cause the lender, such as a bank or credit union, not be able to accurately measure your credit worthiness or risk. 

 

For rebuilding your credit here is the best advice. Have all your accounts in your name were you are responsible for the bill each month. On your own card, keep the utilization under 5%. Even a one dollar balance that does not set off any utilization percentage. Bottom line is the balance. Go to Credit Strong or Self aka Self Lender who reports a savings account as an installment trade line to all three bureaus.

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Anonymous
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Re: How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

Welcome @Anonymous As stated above, sometimes AU accounts are flagged by an anti-abuse algorithm in FICO versions 8 and forward. No one outside of FICO really knows exactly how it works, but it was definitely their intention to flag non-family. Unfortunately, the algorithm doesn't have that info, so our best guesses are that if name or address are different, it might throw the flag.

Anyway, first, the AU account will ALWAYS count on the mortgage scores, so there is that. It counts on versions 5, 4, and 2 and variants. In order to see whether its counting on version 8+, allow the AU account to report a $0 balance. If you lose 10-15 points, it's counting. (If all primary or counting AU accounts report zero, there is a AZ penalty.) So you always want a small balance on 1 primary card and 1 AU card for best scores.

Now, score is determined in great part by the percentage of utilization of your TCL that you are using. Therefore, the extra CL is helping you where it's counting, especially since your utilization is so high on your primary card.

It is slightly reducing your AAOA, on the versions where it is counting, but since these are your only 2 cards, I'm assuming, you're getting points just for having a 2nd card, so I believe the benefit outweighs the tiny detriment.

And additionally you are under penalty until you have at least 3 revolvers. So this AU is adding to TCL, adding good payment history, and reducing penalty for too few cards.

The only reason to dump it would be if it ever had a delinquency or high utilization, IMHO.

Please read the following to give you an overview of how things work:

https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/General-Scoring-Primer-and-Version-8-Master-Thread-rev-5-17-20/m-p/6023348/highlight/true#M169679

 

P.S. When you apply and the computer makes the decision, it's gravy. On manual review, like for mortgages, some lenders will give AU accounts less weight and know it helped your score, but they can't exclude it from scoring, lol.

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Remedios
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Re: How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

Because AU accounts "count" on older scoring models, most lenders will ask you get yourself removed during the mortgage process, because they want to see your score and how you manage your credit, not how someone else manages theirs. 

 

For CC lending, most major lenders will "strip" AU accounts. That's why you will not get approved by Chase if you have a 30 year old AU card, and one that's 6 months old in your name. 

 

The purpose of AU accounts under normal circumstances is to allow members of the same household to continue sharing finances if that's what they chose to do. 

For scoring purposes, its good for artificial AAoA inflation, but again, in order to properly asses the risk applicant presents, the algorithm will often ignore it.

Utilization wise, they can help, but that's only when you're looking at your own score. When lender looks at it, they can tell what's what. 

 

They are nothing but a crutch unless again we're talking about members of the same household. At some point, you need to build your own credit, and sooner you start, better it will be for you. 

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TMB_
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Re: How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

Something interesting to add. Both me and my wife x-authorized ourselves on two cards (one per person). Both of us stay at ~1% of the total utilization and typically both of us have two cards with balance (balance per card ~1%). This is what we observed: - When an owner of a card pays his/her card to 0 than the FICO8 (TU, EX) of the authorized user goes down by ~15points. - At the same the owner's score stays flat. The EQ seems to be robust for this (no changes). We repeated this few times...so it in not a one time event.
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Anonymous
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Re: How Do Authorized User Accounts Affect FICO scores?

That is the AU AZ penalty.
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