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This original question was a good one; but it is really hard to give a comparable example. The one who can best give you an answer is yourself. I will try to give a sample (using my most recent events) to give you a guide; but there are many things that influence me that may not be relevant to you (or anyone else).
I have provided screen shots of my recent data as presented. Let me set my parameters. I have no derogs (collections, charge-offs, BKs, liens, etc.). I have no lates on anything. I have all types of credit (Revolving and Bank-Issued Credit Card Accounts, as well as Installment Loans). I do have negatives that include the amount of new credit (2,3,2) and age of most recently opened account (5 mo., 5 mo., and 5 mo.). My average age of credit is (1.5 yrs., 1.5 years, and 2.1 years); while my age of oldest credit is 13 yrs. 9 mos., 13 yrs. 9 mos., and 16 yrs. 8 mos.).
My problem was that one of my credit cards had not reported (updated) in several months. It took a lot of hounding but the results are obvious. Other problems remain that have not been updated (two of my instalment accounts were paid off – auto and personal loan) but these are not updated in the shots below. Fundamentally, these results are the paying off of one credit card on two of the CRAs (EQ & TU). My total credit card credit is $52,100 and the amount reportedly owed (before the update) was $12,900. That was a utilization percentage of 24.8%. The correct amount owed (that resulted in the score increase) is $450 (0.9%). So in my case, a UTI dropping from 25% to 1% results in an average 75.5-point increase.
You can see how that one factor influenced my scores. EQ saw an 84-point increase on 11/17. TU saw a 67-point increase on the same date, but as of 11/14 EX did not change. They still have not updated their report but I can anticipate an increase of greater than 50 points once they do. Now all I have to do is get these three to update my other data and get me back in the 800 club.
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PS If you want to know why my utilization went up and personal loans used; I had deadbeat renters that tore up my property. Credit cards were used for lawyers, travel to, car and hotels rentals while at the property. The loans were used to fix the mess they made; but after months I paid stuff off and got back. Unfortunately, after 3 months the CRAs still had not updated my report since one CC lender and my bank (where I had the auto and personal loan) were slow to report.
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Runner77, here’s an informational update for you. As I said in my other post, the EX data had not been update at that time; however, I calculated I should see about a 50-point increase. EX updated on 11/19 and the results are below (a 55-point raise). I think you will see the increase you expect. Good luck
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EX Update on 11/17/2017
It's funny thoguh as my Trans score will get way more point than EX or EQ and those 2 will get around the dame amount but it ok lol. Credit is just fascinating like that. I will know something here with my new score very soon and will keep you updated.
Yea Runner77, there are so many variables it can drive one crazy. If you notice, my EX score, while getting the lowest point increase, remains the highest of the three scores that I have. It is simply because EX reports an AMEX card that is very old, while TU and EQ report it as only a 4-years old account. I had an AMEX card years ago and when I got my new card, they (AMEX) reported it as one continuous account that EX accepted – EQ & TU did not. As a result, my Age of Oldest Account for TU and EQ is about 4 years. My EX Age of Oldest Account is almost 17 years and that difference makes my "Length of Credit History" score good with EX but only fair with TU & EQ. Thus the difference in overall score. Drives one crazy but what to do?
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@Anonymous wrote:Here is the Data I said I was going to send ABCD2199
Thanks for your help ABCD2199
Fico 8 score(s)Â
TUÂ 684 EQ 656 EX 658
Fico 2 Bank Card Scores
TU 681 Eq 652 EX 655
-No Collections (But I do have 1 Repo as it is 6 years old and due to fall off in Jan 03 2018)
1 Auto loan since 2013 with 1 late payment of 6 months ago ( mention before that my father and grandfather died in same month, very hard and tough month with bills, but things are great now) billers were totally undertanding.
-Cap 1 QS 19 month aged at 1500.00/ 400.0 Balance 22% uti (This card was a regular Plat to start back in 2015, now upgraded)
-Cap 1 QS1 9 months aged at 1500.00/ 120.00 balance 9% uti (was 1460.00 balance but paid it down yestesterday)
- 2 inquiries across all 3 credit B. ( Last app was back in Feb when I got the QS1)
Wow your scores will probably jump a LOT, unless that repo is your only really old account that is still reporting.
The repo after 6 years is worth about 55 points (on average) so once it falls off, you would see a 55 point increase (on average) if your report was otherwise clean.
That late payment (30D) at 6 months is worth 100 points (on average) so once it ages to 6-12 months, you would see a 15 point increase (on average) if your report was otherwise clean. At 12-24 months you'd see an additional 45 point increase, and then 5 points more a year for 2 years.
Of course, these numbers are assuming otherwise clean profiles with at least one very very old account still on your reports (10-15 year old account). A younger profile will not get back as many points, and a repo and a late payment reporting affect the scores different than if you only had one or the other. But I do believe that repo falling off will get you back 55 points or so, and that late will definitely age away soon after. If you still have an account reporting that is 6+ years old, you could very well be in the 750-760s in 2019, probably 720s in late 2018. That also assumes you get a few more credit cards (you want 5 cards over 2 years of age for maximum FICO boost), that you keep your inquiries to 0 after getting new credit, and that you have a very old account reporting.
Thanks for the infromation and getting back to me.
Yes the Repo is infact the oldest account and due to fall off very soon! This is amazing as my late payment is around 6 to 7 months and I hate that I have it but could help it. Most creditor's from what I have research don't hold it to bad against you if the late is 30d for more than 5 to 6 months or older. BUT I know if say I had a 60 day then I would have a problem hahaha! I have 2 friends who have the almost identical profiles and 1 has a 60 day on his report that is 7 months old and a CS of 701, the other friend has a 30 day that is 4 months and a CS that is 675 (both FICO EX). The one that has the 60d was decline a Amex BCP while my other friend who has the 30 was approve for the same card hahaha!
Needless to say my one friend asked me whould I have done that to him and I said because I know him and the situation def not as I know why that 60d happen BUT if I didn't know him then def yes. Told him to Recon and let them know what's going on. Amex is very strict when it comes to lates of 60d's.
I'm very excited to see where I stand here in a few days lol! Then it app time. Will most def chime you in and 2 others in when I app and take you along for the app spree as well and get some advice.