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Anonymous
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I DON'T UNDERSTAND

This past month, we paid off one of our unsecured signature loans with the credit union.  Today, I received an alert from myFICO and it told me that my score dropped and under the alert is the paid off loan.  How can a paid off loan DROP your credit score?

 

  • An account listed on your credit report has been updatedBased on Experian data
    FICO® SCORE CHANGE
    592
    585
    View score history
    ACCOUNT INFORMATION DETAILS
    UNITED EDUCATIONAL CREDIT UNIO
    • AMOUNT
    • $0.00
    • STATUS
    • Paid Loan
    What does this mean?Dispute this change
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tonyjones
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Re: I DON'T UNDERSTAND

When balance reaches $0 for a loan, you get a hit, but it will recover in time. FICO does not like $0 balance in anything.

Current Fico Scores: (November 2024)
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Anonymous
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Re: I DON'T UNDERSTAND

Same thing happened to me...  Finally got an insecured loan paid off and my Fico Score dropped 8 points.  It really seems counterintuitive!

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aav
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Re: I DON'T UNDERSTAND

Part of the credit score (10%) includes having a mix of different types of credit which may include installment loans. It happened to me as well, but eventually it bounced back.
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Anonymous
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Re: I DON'T UNDERSTAND

Everywhere I read on this board says...........have one card report a balance of less than 10% and a mix of at least one installment loan.  Soooo I paid off the 2 small balances on 2 cards and left 5% utilization on one card.  I LOST 23 points!  I don't think there is a one size fits all when fico is determining scores.  I think the various "buckets" have different qualifications.  One thing I do know from my own file is,  fico likes to see small balances (under 15% utilization) and regular payments.  That suits their model and gives them something to score with.

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lhcole77
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Re: I DON'T UNDERSTAND


@tonyjones wrote:

When balance reaches $0 for a loan, you get a hit, but it will recover in time. FICO does not like $0 balance in anything.


This is not true

 

FICO scores actually get dinged when too many accounts report a balance

 

OP: Was this your only open installment loan?

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Anonymous
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Re: I DON'T UNDERSTAND


@aav wrote:
Part of the credit score (10%) includes having a mix of different types of credit which may include installment loans. It happened to me as well, but eventually it bounced back.

We still HAVE a mix which includes a car loan from Ford Credit, several credit cards, including gas, retail and bank as well as another signature loan through the same credit union. 

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Anonymous
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Re: I DON'T UNDERSTAND


@lhcole77 wrote:

@tonyjones wrote:

When balance reaches $0 for a loan, you get a hit, but it will recover in time. FICO does not like $0 balance in anything.


This is not true

 

FICO scores actually get dinged when too many accounts report a balance

 

OP: Was this your only open installment loan?


No sir, this was not my only open installment loan.  I have a traditional auto loan with Ford Credit and I have another Signature loan, just like the one I paid off, through the same lender that I still owe $4000 on ~ started at $8,000..................I still have a good mix of credit with no lates.

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lhcole77
Valued Contributor

Re: I DON'T UNDERSTAND

Sounds like something else was at play along with this.

 

EX only has certain triggers on here for score change. It's very possible something else happened that wasn't part of the trigger threshold but alert only listed this as the change.

 

That's my educated guess.

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HiLine
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Re: I DON'T UNDERSTAND

There has been a lot of confusion surrounding similar issues, so I figured It's time we clarified a little about how report changes correspond to score changes.

 

The way Score Watch works is this:

 

It monitors your credit report constantly thought it lags behind a little bit from real time. What this means is that if, say today, your credit card reports a new balance to Equifax, a few hours after that, Score Watch will detect the change to the report and send you an alert.

 

But on the other hand, Score Watch does not constantly monitor your FICO score. It checks your FICO score when a reportable event is detected such as the new credit card balance, or if there is no reportable event for a week, it will check your FICO score a week from the last time a new FICO score was reported to you.

 

As a result of that, the reportable event is not the only contributor to a FICO score change. For example, say, today your FICO score was reported to be 700. In the next week, 3 inquiries fall of your report, and then a new credit card balance is reported. The 3 inquiries falling off certainly brought your FICO score up, but since it is not a reportable event, Score Watch will not check for a new FICO score and will not give you an alert. However, when the new credit card balance shows, Score Watch will immediately check for an updated score and report both the new balance AND the new score to you. Now, the new score reflects both the new credit card balance and the aging of the inquiries, but because you see the new score reported at the same time as the balance, you misinterpret the coincidence as one being the only cause for the other.

 

So, to apply this to your particular situation, one explanation is that something else probably happened to your credit report before the secured loan was paid off that brought down your score. Another possible explanation is that you got rebucketed. If you don't understand bucketing for FICO scoring purposes, either search around this board, or ask and wait for someone to explain the concept to you.

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