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I just lost 17 points last night an another 23 today. I lost a grand total of 39pts in less than 24 hours... The only difference is I paid off my installment loan, and it finally reported as closed last night on my Experian report.
Is it your only installment loan? One factor that effects your score is your overall credit mix. Having at least one credit card and one installment loan will help your score. With that said, people can get 800+ scores without an installment loan, it just is a bit harder.
Another possibility is that something else changed (likely if you have another open installment account). I am not sure how Experian monitoring works but most monitoring services only trigger alerts when a triggering event occurs. Not all changes to your credit report will trigger an alert. Simply put, some changes that can effect your score will not trigger an alert. If something else changed in your report that does not trigger an alert, it is possible you are not seeing the real reason for the score change. I have no experience with Experian's monitoring service, but if you go to the product feedback section of this forum and see the FAQ thread about the Three Bureau Monitoring service, you can see a list of triggering events for Experian through myfico (might not be the same as Experian's triggering events).
HI. Actually I have a auto loan that was open the same month as the installment loan. I wanted to have a mixture of credit. I know my Barclay's card reported in December but at the time I was at a 664 after it reported. Well Tuesday night I logged in an notice my score had decreased by 16pts. I checked my report thoroughly an nothing. All remains the same. I even checked the inq's. Still nothing. I then purchased my Ex score from here an it reported a 16pt decrease (648). This morning I was telling my brother that we both made a mistake paying off our installment loans an that's when I log in again to find I lost 23 more points. This is mind boggling. Tomorrow I am going back to my CU to open another installment loan. I will have 2 again. 1 shared secured an 1 auto. Hopefully I can gain these score back over the next 6 months.
I just logged into MyFico
@Anonymous wrote:HI. Actually I have a auto loan that was open the same month as the installment loan. I wanted to have a mixture of credit. I know my Barclay's card reported in December but at the time I was at a 664 after it reported. Well Tuesday night I logged in an notice my score had decreased by 16pts. I checked my report thoroughly an nothing. All remains the same. I even checked the inq's. Still nothing. I then purchased my Ex score from here an it reported a 16pt decrease (648). This morning I was telling my brother that we both made a mistake paying off our installment loans an that's when I log in again to find I lost 23 more points. This is mind boggling. Tomorrow I am going back to my CU to open another installment loan. I will have 2 again. 1 shared secured an 1 auto. Hopefully I can gain these score back over the next 6 months.
Not having an installment loan (most auto loans are installment loans) will likely reduce your score. For some people the impact can be more than others since your overall credit file effects how much any one factor changes your score. You don't have to rush to get an installment loan, but if you choose to, just make sure it is a small loan. I am rarely an advocate for paying interest for a higher credit score. You should never do it with credit cards (you don't need to), but in some situations it might make sense to do it with installment loans.
Additionally, getting a new installment loan will hurt your credit due to a new inquiry and a new account. The damage from the new inquiry and account will be likely be less than the gain from a new installment account (if your 23 point loss is from the installment account being closed only).
Am I correct in assuming you only have one credit card - the Dicover It card? If that's the case, then thats most likely where you are weak. Open up a second credit card account instead of a secured loan, you'll get more mileage from it.
Edit: I just saw where you mention a Barclays card just started reporting last month. New credit line is often a downward pull the first few reporting periods. Something else may have countered that downward pull last month. Still, even with the Barclays card you'll get far more mileage from another card than another installment loan.
Today I decided to log into my Ex credit monitoring service. I notice my score has now increased 23 points. I think I have figured out why the constant change in scoring. The EX monitoring service updates as soon as something different changes on my CR. For me the 1st change was one of my installment loans closed an updated which cause a decrease of 16 points in FICO scoring. The 2nd thing was, my Barclay's card reported 0% utilization, which is to be believe as the cause of a 23 point decrease. The 3rd thing to happen so far is one of my Chase cards reported 1% utilization which triggered an increase of 23 points. I can only assume the score updates as each card reports the balance or installment account updates. What are you guys thoughts? I still have 2 more cards that should report on the 13th with a 0 balance.
@Anonymous wrote:Am I correct in assuming you only have one credit card - the Dicover It card? If that's the case, then thats most likely where you are weak. Open up a second credit card account instead of a secured loan, you'll get more mileage from it.
Edit: I just saw where you mention a Barclays card just started reporting last month. New credit line is often a downward pull the first few reporting periods. Something else may have countered that downward pull last month. Still, even with the Barclays card you'll get far more mileage from another card than another installment loan.
Hi Norman, I actually I have 6 credit cards. BOA, Discover, Barclay's, Cap 1 an 2 chase cards. Plus two recently acquired store cards that have yet to report. I also have 1 installment loan that I still owe on (auto loan). Today when my chase card reported its 1st statement, my score increased 23 points. This is really odd.