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radfam
Frequent Contributor

Individual Utilization data point

So I have been actively paying down CC utilization and monitoring my progress very intently.  I have a data point that I'd like to share.  I had high (85-99%) utl on three CCs in December.  By late February/early March, I had paid one card down to $1 ($0 but I caught an interest charge the day it reported, figures).  The second card, I brought down to 11%.  The third card was sitting at 45%.  My overall utl was at 18%.

 

Today, I got an alert that card #3 had reported a balance decrease.  I was expecting this, as I paid it down to 27% last week.  I have also paid off card #2 but it won't update until 4/1.  My overall utl went down to 13% with card #3 updating today.  

 

What I was not expecting was the score change.  I got 0 pt increase on EX and EQ, and 1pt on TU.  I realize that I did not pass any utl thresholds for my overall utl scoring.  I did, however, pass one threshold on card #3.  I am hopeful to see more score increases as card 1 reports $0, card 2 reports $0, and card 2 reports at 27%.  I guess I'm just a bit surprised that I got 1 tiny point increase on 1b for passing a threshold on an individual card, and goose eggs for the other 2b. 

 

FWIW, no other changes that I can tell have occurred on my report, except aging 1 month.  I literally review my reports multiple times daily on Experian, to monitor for changes.  I also subscribe to MF 3b+, so a monthly refresh.  I have seen large score gains by going from high utl to low, and I keep seeing people say that the biggest increase is usually at AZEO with 1 at <8%.  I hope that is true for me.  Anyway, I just wanted to provide a data point for anyone who gathers them.

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expatCanuck
Super Contributor

Re: Individual Utilization data point

It could be that time is needed.  For whatever reason, I've found that a score change isn't always synchronous with the event(s) causing the change.  There's often a delay.

 

I believe this to be the case because the FICO powers-that-be are puckish s.o.b.'s with twisted, sick little senses of humour.


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Anonymous
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Re: Individual Utilization data point

Nice work chipping away at that utilization.

 

You said that you started with 3 high/near maxed out CCs, but I'm not sure you stated what your original aggregate utilization was?

 

I'm just curious how much your scores have improved in crossing what I believe is 3 aggregate utilization thresholds, with of course 3 highest individual card thresholds being crossed as well.

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radfam
Frequent Contributor

Re: Individual Utilization data point

I went back and found the post where I started tracking! I was slightly under quoting on the utilization’s in this OP. Here are what my individuals and overall were in December. My signature is current for scores and increases.

Cap1: $1424 of 1600 SL (89% utl)
Disc: $1115 of 1200 SL (93% utl)
Amex: $857 of 1000 SL (86% utl)

Total over: $3396 of 3800 SL (89% utl)

Important to note, when I paid down a chunk on the Disco, they gave a CLI. So my SL went from $1200 &gt; $2300 in early Feb. So mid paydown, I got a buffer from 29% down to 17% on the remaining balance for that card, which was great!
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xaximus
Valued Contributor

Re: Individual Utilization data point

Generally, I've noticed when paying down balances, it takes anywhere between 30-60 days to fully reflect on your reports. This takes in the time in when the statement is generated, when your balances are reported, and any current balances/interest, etc. I think the general idea is that once you pay down balances, give it 30-60 days and you should be able to see the difference in your scores. Especially in your case where you've dropped several thresholds and also got a CLI. Since your scores are dropping 4-5 thresholds, I would estimate you'll get anywhere between 50-100 points to your score. Then again, it's a guesstimate on what you may or may not get, but I would be more inclined to say, you should see a boost of at least 50+.


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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Individual Utilization data point

Congrats on the pay down of the balances.  That is good work. 

I presume these balance amounts are statement balances, correct?

 

Do do you have any baddies in your file? 

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Individual Utilization data point


@radfam wrote:

So I have been actively paying down CC utilization and monitoring my progress very intently.  I have a data point that I'd like to share.  I had high (85-99%) utl on three CCs in December.  By late February/early March, I had paid one card down to $1 ($0 but I caught an interest charge the day it reported, figures).  The second card, I brought down to 11%.  The third card was sitting at 45%.  My overall utl was at 18%.

 

Today, I got an alert that card #3 had reported a balance decrease.  I was expecting this, as I paid it down to 27% last week.  I have also paid off card #2 but it won't update until 4/1.  My overall utl went down to 13% with card #3 updating today.  

 

What I was not expecting was the score change.  I got 0 pt increase on EX and EQ, and 1pt on TU.  I realize that I did not pass any utl thresholds for my overall utl scoring.  I did, however, pass one threshold on card #3.  I am hopeful to see more score increases as card 1 reports $0, card 2 reports $0, and card 2 reports at 27%.  I guess I'm just a bit surprised that I got 1 tiny point increase on 1b for passing a threshold on an individual card, and goose eggs for the other 2b. 

 

FWIW, no other changes that I can tell have occurred on my report, except aging 1 month.  I literally review my reports multiple times daily on Experian, to monitor for changes.  I also subscribe to MF 3b+, so a monthly refresh.  I have seen large score gains by going from high utl to low, and I keep seeing people say that the biggest increase is usually at AZEO with 1 at <8%.  I hope that is true for me.  Anyway, I just wanted to provide a data point for anyone who gathers them.


1.  It takes time. Just keep up the good work.

2.  I don't think monitoring Experian multiple times a day is a good use of your time; I've had the service for around 5 months now, and I'm pretty sure it updates only once a day.


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radfam
Frequent Contributor

Re: Individual Utilization data point

Thanks everyone.
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