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Hey ya'll! Will paying off my installment loan early increase my score? I actually have gotten tremendous point boosts because I added TL's that I didn't have (cc's, installment loan to an already perfect auto loan payment history) I was considering paying this off if it will give me enough bump to be in the 700s on EQ (im really close!). Or is it better to just pay it monthly over the full year? How heavy is the weight of an installment loan in FICO scoring?
@beautybrainsbooty wrote:Hey ya'll! Will paying off my installment loan early increase my score? I actually have gotten tremendous point boosts because I added TL's that I didn't have (cc's, installment loan to an already perfect auto loan payment history) I was considering paying this off if it will give me enough bump to be in the 700s on EQ (im really close!). Or is it better to just pay it monthly over the full year? How heavy is the weight of an installment loan in FICO scoring?
Minimal, installment loans are a different animal than the FICO revolving utilization calculation.
If the interest isn't of consequence for you, it is always better to stretch out the payments to make that tradeline as long as possible. Once you pay it off, the clock starts running on the 10 years till it falls off, and you're no longer accruing positive payment history on the tradeline. Additionally if the length of the tradeline ticks over a theorized seasoning boundary (tradeline length appears to matter) that might be straight bonus points too. Certainly if you're coming up on either six months or able to cross some year boundary, I'd keep it just because of the possibility if the additional interest was fiscally irrelevant. My definition of irrelevant is different than others though, that's an individual preference.
If anything, there have been reports of people's taking a small FICO penalty for paying off installment loans; much like it's a good thing to have two revolving tradelines, and probably active ones at that, there maybe a similar scoring factor on installment loan tradelines though I'm guessing it might be a small bucketing change instead of the mix of credit w're pretty confident the first installment line is nothing but goodness for. We have seen anecdotal reports that having two, open installment loans is a good thing, but quantifying that is difficult as usually the point swings involved are pretty minimal and might be for completely unrelated things.
In any event, once the negatives are gone, and you have a good number of tradelines established, and you're not saddled with a mound of revolving debt according to FICO, the path to gold-platedness is through payment history. Time will take you everywhere you want to go if you maintain good habits, there's just not a lot of other things you can do to continue prettying up your report, and you're in a great place right now for building to that.
Wow! Thanks for that information! I totally get it now. I figured it was a very small bump basically because of the difference of when it hit my report and when my CCs hit it was double digit increases. I will keep it for the year to maximize the length. In my case, I have had nothing but score increases for additional TLs so payment history is where its at.
This forum and the advice here has proven invaluable in helping me move my credit score up and up!
I'd have to agree with Relevate. I just joined this site to understand the factors adversly influencing my credit score. One of the items listed was lack of RECENT installment loan information. I must say that ticks me off. I worked hard to pay everything off and now it hurts me?
Still looking around the forums to see what the other factors mean. Is there a list of them somewhere? Or should I just post them and see if anyone knows?
~S
@Anonymous wrote:I'd have to agree with Relevate. I just joined this site to understand the factors adversly influencing my credit score. One of the items listed was lack of RECENT installment loan information. I must say that ticks me off. I worked hard to pay everything off and now it hurts me?
Still looking around the forums to see what the other factors mean. Is there a list of them somewhere? Or should I just post them and see if anyone knows?
~S
Was that pulled from here?
If so, which report?
No, it wasn't from here.
I applied for a Home Equity Loan this week. I will probably get the loan, but not at the lowest rate. They pulled the report from Transunion. I didn't pay to get the one through this site, because I qualify for my free annual one.
The four factors adversely affecting my credit are:
1) Time since most recent account opening is too short. (I opened an account last February)
2) Length of time revolving accounts have been established. (They range from 20 years to 6 months--6 months being the one just opened)
3) Lack of recent installment information
4) Length of time accounts have been established--not sure which accounts that would even refer to, since there is no installment information and they already dinged me for the revolving account!
I would be appreciative of your input!
~S
Adding to what I just wrote, since I realize I wasn't clear, that information came printed with my credit score from the bank I applied for the loan from.
Another question I have: will closing several accounts at once adversely affect my score? After looking at my FICO report here, I have several unused open accounts that are 10 or so years old.
Thank you,
~S
The factors are ranked in order from most damaging to least. When your score is much higher, they'll scrape at the bottom of the bucket for facotrs, since they only show 4. It gets to a point as your scores increase that the bottom couple of factors really don't matter all that much per pointage. I bet if you added a loan prior to this one that you'd see a ding for the new credit resulting in a net loss.
On the others...1) the account is new. 2) again, refers to that new acct. 4) Probably is basing that off your AAoA and/or length of history. In comparison to others within your scoring bucket, you're a relative credit newbie. I'd certainly ignore that because there's nothing you can do other than stop applying for stuff.
@Anonymous wrote:
Another question I have: will closing several accounts at once adversely affect my score? After looking at my FICO report here, I have several unused open accounts that are 10 or so years old.
Don't! Once closed, it'll forever be removed from your CC util. It'll still factor into your age and AAoA, but the clock starts on the time it'll be removed, 10 yrs out. You want them on as long as possible and that's to keep them open.
Ok, thank you so much for that information!
I guess I naively assumed since I have never had a late payment anywhere in 20 years, don't carry any debt, and pay my credit cards off monthly, that I would have been in the top tier for interest rates on this loan. I was shocked to find out I wasn't. I will leave the other accounts open. :-)
My car is paid for, but I plan on replacing it in 24-36 months, so I will be shopping for another loan at that time. It will be interesting to see what my score is then!
~S