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@Thomas_Thumb wrote:
@SouthJamaica wrote:I believe I detected this morning a minor FICO 8 installment utilization threshold at 40%.
I picked up a group of small loans a few months ago, have been gradually paying them off, and have been watching EX FICO 8 and 2 on a daily basis to see what happens as aggregate installment utilization slowly drops.
I expected something to happen when I crossed 50% but nothing happened.
Today I crossed 40%, going from 40.7% to 36.4%, and my EX FICO 8 -- which has been very stable -- increased 2 points.
(Something else happened the same day... a hard pull. Theoretically that might have muffled the impact. But I doubt it, because my EX inquiries are already so high that another HP wouldn't have done a thing).
By my definition, a score should change atleast 5 points with the attribute effectively isolated to be classified as a threshold. 2 or 3 point changes are noise and should be considered incidental. Otherwise, everything becomes a threshold and defining something as a threshold loses meaning.
As a general rule, I agree with you, but in this case the EX score was extremely stable, sitting like a lump on a log despite lots of little things going on. Then on a clear day -- when nothing else happened but this -- it budged 2. Made me think there was a slight disturbance in the force.
Today, when my EQ report caught up to EX, the EQ FICO 8 jumped 6 points... again with nothing else of any significance going on. Will be interesting to see if TU FICO 8 confirms.





























Huh, I'm not sure where the concept of "noise" in credit scores is coming from... I have never seen a change in my score that could not be attributed to some change in my file. I also got a couple of points going from >99% utilization on my loans to 98% utilization so I definitely think there are points to be gained in loan utilization outside of the big barriers of 65% and 9%.



AU:
@ChemE_Bear wrote:I also got a couple of points going from >99% utilization on my loans to 98% utilization so I definitely think there are points to be gained in loan utilization outside of the big barriers of 65% and 9%.
Unless you were doing some serious testing where the utilization threshold crossed was isolated from other profile factors (utilization, age of accounts, etc) there's no way of knowing where your "couple of points" gained came from and it's completely possible the the installment loan utilization [insignificant] drop wasn't a factor at all.
I follow my scores very closely, there was no crossing of thresholds for age of accounts and no change in credit card utilization.



AU: