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In the past, when my installment utilization dropped below 10% I experienced a big bang in my FICO 8's and 9's, to the tune of 30 points across the board.
It happened today that my installment utilization dropped from 18% to 8%.
The 'bang' in my EX FICO 8 was a mere 5 points.
The differences between then and now:
-number of installment loans: this was over 6 loans, in the past it was just 1 or 2
-other utilization: this was during a time of very high utilization for me, in the past it was very low utilization
Go figure.
One of my smaller loans is still at > 10%. Since it had 0% interest, I decided not to rush paying it off. I'm going to get that one down to < 10%, and see if that makes a difference.
Update: EQ FICO 8 appears to have jumped 19 points, but it's impossible to discern whether that's attributable to just this event.
Do you believe your scorecard today to be different than it was the first time you tested this?
@SouthJamaica wrote:In the past, when my installment utilization dropped below 10% I experienced a big bang in my FICO 8's and 9's, to the tune of 30 points across the board.
It happened today that my installment utilization dropped from 18% to 8%.
The 'bang' in my EX FICO 8 was a mere 5 points.
The differences between then and now:
-number of installment loans: this was over 6 loans, in the past it was just 1 or 2
-other utilization: this was during a time of very high utilization for me, in the past it was very low utilization
Go figure.
One of my smaller loans is still at > 10%. Since it had 0% interest, I decided not to rush paying it off. I'm going to get that one down to < 10%, and see if that makes a difference.
Update: EQ FICO 8 appears to have jumped 19 points, but it's impossible to discern whether that's attributable to just this event.
@SouthJamaica you do mean your aggregate installment utilization dropped to 8%?
@SouthJamaica wrote:In the past, when my installment utilization dropped below 10% I experienced a big bang in my FICO 8's and 9's, to the tune of 30 points across the board.
It happened today that my installment utilization dropped from 18% to 8%.
The 'bang' in my EX FICO 8 was a mere 5 points.
The differences between then and now:
-number of installment loans: this was over 6 loans, in the past it was just 1 or 2
-other utilization: this was during a time of very high utilization for me, in the past it was very low utilization
Go figure.
One of my smaller loans is still at > 10%. Since it had 0% interest, I decided not to rush paying it off. I'm going to get that one down to < 10%, and see if that makes a difference.
Update: EQ FICO 8 appears to have jumped 19 points, but it's impossible to discern whether that's attributable to just this event.
Was there a difference on length of open loan payment history now vs in the past? I continue to believe that open loans with longer payment history will see less of a point gain by reducing aggregate (or individual) B/L ratio than loans with under 1 year payment history.
As an illustration, a 5 year auto loan with 3 years payment history at a 50% B/L may see a 5 point gain dropping below 9% B/L whereas the same 5 year loan with only 6 months payment history might see a 20 point gain dropping from 50% to below 9%. There have been a few posters with a single open auto loan (no other open loans) reporting minimal score increases when B/L dropped below 9%. These loans had more than 2 years payment history. Can't recall thickness of poster files and amount/age of closed loans or if all those details were provided.
@Thomas_Thumb I recently got some points when my loan aged to 30 months, I think, but it was conflated with scorecard reassignment.
I did not age to 30 months at Equifax and you can see the difference in the scores, but there were other aging metrics conflated too, so I can't really be sure:
@Anonymous wrote:
@SouthJamaica wrote:In the past, when my installment utilization dropped below 10% I experienced a big bang in my FICO 8's and 9's, to the tune of 30 points across the board.
It happened today that my installment utilization dropped from 18% to 8%.
The 'bang' in my EX FICO 8 was a mere 5 points.
The differences between then and now:
-number of installment loans: this was over 6 loans, in the past it was just 1 or 2
-other utilization: this was during a time of very high utilization for me, in the past it was very low utilization
Go figure.
One of my smaller loans is still at > 10%. Since it had 0% interest, I decided not to rush paying it off. I'm going to get that one down to < 10%, and see if that makes a difference.
Update: EQ FICO 8 appears to have jumped 19 points, but it's impossible to discern whether that's attributable to just this event.
@SouthJamaica you do mean your aggregate installment utilization dropped to 8%?
Yes
@Thomas_Thumb wrote:
@SouthJamaica wrote:In the past, when my installment utilization dropped below 10% I experienced a big bang in my FICO 8's and 9's, to the tune of 30 points across the board.
It happened today that my installment utilization dropped from 18% to 8%.
The 'bang' in my EX FICO 8 was a mere 5 points.
The differences between then and now:
-number of installment loans: this was over 6 loans, in the past it was just 1 or 2
-other utilization: this was during a time of very high utilization for me, in the past it was very low utilization
Go figure.
One of my smaller loans is still at > 10%. Since it had 0% interest, I decided not to rush paying it off. I'm going to get that one down to < 10%, and see if that makes a difference.
Update: EQ FICO 8 appears to have jumped 19 points, but it's impossible to discern whether that's attributable to just this event.
Was there a difference on length of open loan payment history now vs in the past? I continue to believe that open loans with longer payment history will see less of a point gain by reducing aggregate (or individual) B/L ratio than loans with under 1 year payment history.
As an illustration, a 5 year auto loan with 3 years payment history at a 50% B/L may see a 5 point gain dropping below 9% B/L whereas the same 5 year loan with only 6 months payment history might see a 20 point gain dropping from 50% to below 9%. There have been a few posters with a single open auto loan (no other open loans) reporting minimal score increases when B/L dropped below 9%. These loans had more than 2 years payment history. Can't recall thickness of poster files and amount/age of closed loans or if all those details were provided.
Good question.
The ones from my past experiments were all very young; none lasted close to a year.
The current open loans are:
-2 years 3 months
-11 months
-7 months
-7 months
-7 months
-5 months