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Known Thresholds for Number of Accounts?

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donkort
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Re: Known Thresholds for Number of Accounts?

I have 17 open accounts, and 15 closed accounts.  This is marked as a "red flag," which is supposedly keeping down my scores.

 

1 have one student loan, and one auto lease.  I have 15 revolvers---probably way too much! LOL

FICO 8: EQ 810; TU 816; EX 822 as of 7/5/2022
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Anonymous
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Re: Known Thresholds for Number of Accounts?

@donkortJust like TT was speaking of the negative reason code for too few bankcards, some say "too few/too many," so there is obviously a penalty, however small, whether there are too few or too many. I wouldn't worry about it too much, the penalty is likely small at the top end.

I believe I began seeing the too many code around 16 revolvers, IIRC. And I believe you are penalized if you have less than 3, which is where the "all you need are 3 cards for top scores" came from.

I would agree 5 is optimal for scoring across FICO models, IMHO.

@AnonymousAs to # of cards with a balance thresholds, I don't think they've been conclusively pinned down, but IMHO, I believe 20%, 33%, 50%, and 100% probably exist, as well as maybe another over 50%, although I don't know if all are on all models and variations. Hopefully with some future testing we can nail these down. 


Edit: I'm now beginning to believe 20%, 40%, 60%, 80%, and 100%.

Message 12 of 14
Revelate
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Re: Known Thresholds for Number of Accounts?


@Anonymous wrote:
@donkortJust like TT was speaking of the negative reason code for too few bankcards, some say "too few/too many," so there is obviously a penalty, however small, whether there are too few or too many. I wouldn't worry about it too much, the penalty is likely small at the top end.

I believe I began seeing the too many code around 16, IIRC. And I believe you are penalized if you have less than 3, which is where the myth of "all you need are 3 cards for top scores" came from.

I would agree 5 is optimal for scoring across FICO models, IMHO.

@AnonymousAs to thresholds, I don't think they've been conclusively pinned down, but IMHO, I believe 20%, 33%, 50%, and 100% probably exist, as well as maybe another over 50%, although I don't know if all are on all models and variations. Hopefully with some future testing we can nail these down.


It does vary across scorecards seemingly but I will absolutely document the Experian scores concretely once things settle down from a credit perspective for someone with new revolvers.  Two mortgages and a few CU apps and BT credit cards take precedence but that I hope is all sorted by July and then I am steady state without known changes for the next several months.  I will change my due dates around so they aren't all on the same day so I can try to get better resolution too.




        
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Anonymous
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Re: Known Thresholds for Number of Accounts?

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