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Other than that its an OCD thing. Unless youre striving for a specific short-term goal or it's part of a viscious downward spiral, I don't see the benefit of burning some life expectancy days over it.
Yeah no downward spiral here. $2K of it isn't even mine. Roommate is paying $200 a month towards it. I just want it gone sooner than later. Realistically I could BT all of my debt to Disco at 0% for 12, pay the $105 fee, go pick up a BCP to recoup that fee, and pay it off over the next 11 months at $320 a month, $200 of which would come from my roommate repaying her loan. It's a tempting idea but only $800 of what I am revolving is not on 0% and I'm paying $550 of that this month.
@Anonymous wrote:I decided to not pay down my Rewards+ before the statement cuts. It will report around $1050 out of $1900 when it shows up presumably when my first cycle closes on the 10th and then I'll make a $300 payment in November.
This is going to be the highest percentage I have let a card report since my BK. I am trying to relax and stop micromanaging balances
Hahahahaha! I decided to do this too this month with all 3 capone cards. I have run them up to 90%, decided to show high balances. Ya know, the chick can handle it kinda thing. Welp, chickened-out yesterday and paid them back down...a lot. I'm so Scareduh! I don't know why! Report back; let me know when the coast is clear.
@GApeachy wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:I decided to not pay down my Rewards+ before the statement cuts. It will report around $1050 out of $1900 when it shows up presumably when my first cycle closes on the 10th and then I'll make a $300 payment in November.
This is going to be the highest percentage I have let a card report since my BK. I am trying to relax and stop micromanaging balances
Hahahahaha! I decided to do this too this month with all 3 capone cards. I have run them up to 90%, decided to show high balances. Ya know, the chick can handle it kinda thing. Welp, chickened-out yesterday and paid them back down...a lot. I'm so Scareduh! I don't know why! Report back; let me know when the coast is clear.
Trust me, I have thought about just paying NFCU an extra 6 bucks and skipping that payment entirely this month (I paid more than the minimum last month so I have $0 due this month) so I could give Citi the $550 and just have $500 report and various other scenarios but honestly the card has a low limit so I don't particularly care if Citi gets spooked since it's gonna hit the SD once I get my gift cards redeemed -- I have Disco 3% match to hit 😂
Keep in mind most consumers spend very little time thinking about these things and everything turns out fine. If you only have one card and it reports as maxed out I could see worrying but with a dozen cards, one card with moderate to high utilization is not that big of a deal. No reason to stress over it.
Stressing about whether creditors will get spooked is a waste of your energy because if it happens it happens. It's out of your control. Just use your cards for the reason you got them -- benefits -- and live life. Even if the card is shutdown at the worst case scenario, it's not the end of the world.
@kdm31091 wrote:Keep in mind most consumers spend very little time thinking about these things and everything turns out fine. If you only have one card and it reports as maxed out I could see worrying but with a dozen cards, one card with moderate to high utilization is not that big of a deal. No reason to stress over it.
Stressing about whether creditors will get spooked is a waste of your energy because if it happens it happens. It's out of your control. Just use your cards for the reason you got them -- benefits -- and live life. Even if the card is shutdown at the worst case scenario, it's not the end of the world.
@kdm31091 I would totally agree with you on all points but except one minor detail..at some point all of us have exhibited credit related behaviors that tend to draw just a tad bit more attention.
I agree that there is really nothing alarming there, but even when lender doesn't care, we know what we did last summer.
@kdm31091 wrote:Keep in mind most consumers spend very little time thinking about these things and everything turns out fine. If you only have one card and it reports as maxed out I could see worrying but with a dozen cards, one card with moderate to high utilization is not that big of a deal. No reason to stress over it.
Stressing about whether creditors will get spooked is a waste of your energy because if it happens it happens. It's out of your control. Just use your cards for the reason you got them -- benefits -- and live life. Even if the card is shutdown at the worst case scenario, it's not the end of the world.
It's very hard to describe what is going on in my head. It's not a traditional fear of anything, it's just unease about the situation. I am 99% sure that there won't be any AA as a result of this which is why I made this thread. It's an absurd thing to be stressed about when I'm quite certain that nothing negative will come of it and I was just curious how others who have tried to break with their management of reporting managed to do it. All of us who do manipulate reporting all the time are varying degrees of OCD which is why we are so good at it but the downside is that the OCD persists past the point of need.
@Remedios wrote:
@kdm31091 wrote:Keep in mind most consumers spend very little time thinking about these things and everything turns out fine. If you only have one card and it reports as maxed out I could see worrying but with a dozen cards, one card with moderate to high utilization is not that big of a deal. No reason to stress over it.
Stressing about whether creditors will get spooked is a waste of your energy because if it happens it happens. It's out of your control. Just use your cards for the reason you got them -- benefits -- and live life. Even if the card is shutdown at the worst case scenario, it's not the end of the world.
@kdm31091 I would totally agree with you on all points but except one minor detail..at some point all of us have exhibited credit related behaviors that tend to draw just a tad bit more attention.
I agree that there is really nothing alarming there, but even when lender doesn't care, we know what we did last summer.
Tad bit? I'm sure when I pull my reports in January that I'm going to see many pages of SPs checking up on me haha.
I just paid down my Propel on a 0%. I let it report 99.9961% lol. I had the high balance at 9,999.61 on a 10k CL. It reported over 99% for 3 months. As a result, I got a 2K CLI. Ran it up to about $11,600, because I was never worried about it.
But, I have a long card history with large limits. I lost about 40 pts on my scores, but that still put me near 800. Once you are able to establish a long history, % utilized reported won't matter much.
By maxing out my card, I was able to earn interest on my purchases until the 0% rate expired.
Back in 2007 when CCC deposited funds to your checking account with no fee and a 0% rate (sounds crazy today), I ran up 90K of free money earning interest. Not sure what my utilization was back then, but it could have topped 70%. I didn't even think about it back then, but it probably wasn't too smart on my part. Didn't get a CLD, or any hint of any card companies getting nervous. But those were very different times.
Keep improving your credit and you'll never have to think about what balance amount gets reported, even if you max out a card.
@Anonymous wrote:I just paid down my Propel on a 0%. I let it report 99.9961% lol. I had the high balance at 9,999.61 on a 10k CL. It reported over 99% for 3 months. As a result, I got a 2K CLI. Ran it up to about $11,600, because I was never worried about it.
But, I have a long card history with large limits. I lost about 40 pts on my scores, but that still put me near 800. Once you are able to establish a long history, % utilized reported won't matter much.
By maxing out my card, I was able to earn interest on my purchases until the 0% rate expired.
Back in 2007 when CCC deposited funds to your checking account with no fee and a 0% rate (sounds crazy today), I ran up 90K of free money earning interest. Not sure what my utilization was back then, but it could have topped 70%. I didn't even think about it back then, but it probably wasn't too smart on my part. Didn't get a CLD, or any hint of any card companies getting nervous. But those were very different times.
Keep improving your credit and you'll never have to think about what balance amount gets reported, even if you max out a card.
Well with my income, it would definitely concern my lenders if I maxed out a $10K card but I get your point.
I do not think my profile is actually that fragile with any of my lenders except AMEX -- and even then it's only because they don't know me very well yet. I mean $18K income is nothing yet even with a BK on my record and so much new credit that FICO has moved credit seeking to my number three reason code on FICO 8, I still have 720 scores and more than 5 times my income in total limits. As for thickness, even with all my seeking behaviors I still have 2y AAoA.
I think it's much more getting comfortable with letting things report than anything else. Even before my BK I never let myself max out a card. It's very unlikely I will ever be okay with more than 80% reporting but I can see myself being comfortable with anything up to 68.9% eventually.
@Anonymous wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:I just paid down my Propel on a 0%. I let it report 99.9961% lol. I had the high balance at 9,999.61 on a 10k CL. It reported over 99% for 3 months. As a result, I got a 2K CLI. Ran it up to about $11,600, because I was never worried about it.
But, I have a long card history with large limits. I lost about 40 pts on my scores, but that still put me near 800. Once you are able to establish a long history, % utilized reported won't matter much.
By maxing out my card, I was able to earn interest on my purchases until the 0% rate expired.
Back in 2007 when CCC deposited funds to your checking account with no fee and a 0% rate (sounds crazy today), I ran up 90K of free money earning interest. Not sure what my utilization was back then, but it could have topped 70%. I didn't even think about it back then, but it probably wasn't too smart on my part. Didn't get a CLD, or any hint of any card companies getting nervous. But those were very different times.
Keep improving your credit and you'll never have to think about what balance amount gets reported, even if you max out a card.
Well with my income, it would definitely concern my lenders if I maxed out a $10K card but I get your point.
I do not think my profile is actually that fragile with any of my lenders except AMEX -- and even then it's only because they don't know me very well yet. I mean $18K income is nothing yet even with a BK on my record and so much new credit that FICO has moved credit seeking to my number three reason code on FICO 8, I still have 720 scores and more than 5 times my income in total limits. As for thickness, even with all my seeking behaviors I still have 2y AAoA.
I think it's much more getting comfortable with letting things report than anything else. Even before my BK I never let myself max out a card. It's very unlikely I will ever be okay with more than 80% reporting but I can see myself being comfortable with anything up to 68.9% eventually.
With a limited history and a BK, you don't want to report too many cards with balances, especially high utilization. But once that BK ages and falls off, it should be no problem.
You should report some utilization each month that shows you pay off balances. And mix them up with different cards.
Another reason I like to run up utilization is the high balance attribute on a card. I have no idea what formula they use for calculating FICO scores, but I have a hunch that high balance is used in some small way. If not with scores, maybe with CLs. If a card company sees a low current balance and a high balance number from the past, they may be more comfortable with CLIs.
With Chase, I had an initial 19,100 CL with them. Ran my 0% up to 18,900. Paid it in full and got an automatic bump to 23,600 within 1 or 2 cycles.
Hoping Wells Fargo follows suit with a CLI.