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Letting my first card report >50%...

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Re: Letting my first card report >50%...


@NRB525 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Well my account popped on Experian today and I must say I'm shocked. 

Highest single card util went from 19% to 56% and AAoA dropped from 1y11m to 1y10m, aggregate 3% -> 4%, 721 -> 715. 

6 points for two individual thresholds? I will totally take it. 

If lack of carnage remains across TU and EQ, I will be very happy. 

Stress for nothing so far though. 


Congrats on the relative nothing burger 🍔 

 

Thanks for updating. Real examples are appreciated around here, as some urban legends build momentum without people actually experiencing the situation

Smiley Wink


I was expecting a lot more since I have a BK scorecard assignment but 6 points is nothing and totally reasonable. 

It will be a few days before I pull my 3B. TU should have it by Monday hopefully. 

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Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: Letting my first card report >50%...

When mine reported VS3.0 did not budge, either. There was very little change to aggregate, though 

 

With that said, VS3.0 was mighty impressed with two year old HPs falling off 

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Re: Letting my first card report >50%...


@Remedios wrote:

When mine reported VS3.0 did not budge, either. There was very little change to aggregate, though 

 

With that said, VS3.0 was mighty impressed with two year old HPs falling off 


VS definitely isn't a fan of inquiries. I think that's why mine is at 698 right now but VS4 has been tracking pretty dang close to FICO. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Letting my first card report >50%...

EQ 721 -> 714

TU 726 -> 722

 

Yeah, definitely not a big deal. 

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Letting my first card report >50%...

What is the timing of your BK? That scorecard could be an influence.

If I recall, my experience nearly a year ago, with experimenting crossing 50% was a few more points, but there was another card at 80% or 90% in that sequence and my number of cards with balances is definitely more. A clean scorecard, higher score may be more influenced by the utilization on one card.
High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: Letting my first card report >50%...


@NRB525 wrote:
What is the timing of your BK? That scorecard could be an influence.

If I recall, my experience nearly a year ago, with experimenting crossing 50% was a few more points, but there was another card at 80% or 90% in that sequence and my number of cards with balances is definitely more. A clean scorecard, higher score may be more influenced by the utilization on one card.

My BK was back in 2010 so I have less than a year before it's gone from my reports but it's still there holding things down. 

I have heard it multiple times around here that utilization hurts BK files more but it's possible that only applies to aggregate thresholds, not individual ones. I won't be going up a threshold to find out (if I did it would be a big problem anyway since it takes ~$10K to hit 10% of my limits) but I'm certainly not afraid of having balances report anymore. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Letting my first card report >50%...

Just pulled my 3B


Citi is still my highest utilization, down to 45.47% from 58%

TU went up 4 points to 726

EQ went up 7 points to 721

EX went up 4 points to 719

 

I recovered full points on TU and EQ despite being over 28.9% still and EX is 2 points down. 

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Letting my first card report >50%...

So continuing to see minimal score change, correct?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: Letting my first card report >50%...


@NRB525 wrote:

So continuing to see minimal score change, correct?


Negligible really. The worst score change going from under 28.9% to over 48.9% was only 7 points and I've recovered all my points on two bureaus despite still being over 28.9% with EX being down 2 points. 

Honestly I don't think it really bears out on my scorecards that utilization affects dirty cards more because the point loss was not even worth a sneeze. 

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omgitsMatt
Frequent Contributor

Re: Letting my first card report >50%...


@Anonymous wrote:

Those of you who have also optimized your score for a while... how do you get yourself comfortable with letting things report organically? It's got me all kinds of stressed thinking about a card at 55%! Smiley Frustrated


I'm interested to read how others reigned themselves in and let go, that's what I'm trying to figure out now.

 

I'm about to let two smaller cards report a balance over 50% but under 68.9%.

 

685/1000 - 68.5% - Will wittle down over 13 months and make 1.5x to 2x min payment, then PIF just before 0% promo ends.
2055/3000 - 68.5% - Will wittle down over 14 months and make 1.5x to 2x min payment, then PIF just before 0% promo ends.

 

I'll adjust the payments accordingly to stretch this out for the entire duration, I'll figure that out after the first payment posts however. I don't want to over think it, I've done that enough and got a good plan I think. The idea is to endear myself to the lenders and grow the accounts with CLIs while actually not having to swipe the cards, I think it's a good plan.

 

That'll put me at 2/8 revolvers reporting a balance over 50% but under 68.9% (which I felt was prudent) for awhile with an aggregate utilization of 8% when things settle by January.

 

By January I can set up bill pay to make the exact payments I want when I figure that out. Stretching out the balance being paid off for the duration of the entire promo like I plan. Then I can throw all my cards in a 2nd wallet except debit card and my daily driver, then throw the wallet in my filing cabinet.

 

That'll leave me with 1 card to manage and a few days before it's statement posts on it, I'll still _keep_ making charges and paying them off a day or two later. Not worrying wheter I carry a nominal balance on it just as the statement cuts anymore, which I was compulsive about not wanting to happen.

 

That's about as close as I think I can get to reiging in the micromanaging, which I think is a good compromise in relation to the way I obsessed over it the last year. I'll be honest, I'm looking forward to it. I'm tired and bored of it, I need a break.

 

I'm not going to pretend that isn't still obsessing to a large degree, but that's the best I can do for now. I'll set it up, then let it go on auto pilot. A micromanaged plan to auto pilot is good, right? Right??? :-D

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