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Re: Need Guidance in increasing score

Your mortgage will likely remain on your report until 10 years after the "date closed."  Closed accounts can fall off sooner, but that's fairly rare.  You originally thought it closed in 2006, but since you have reinvestigated and discovered the correct date of 2009 you will likely be fine. 

 

Be sure to get that second card back in action.  That's important.  You have a lot of accounts and a high AAoA, so adding a third card won't hurt your AAoA much, if you decide to do that.

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@Anonymous wrote:

Your mortgage will likely remain on your report until 10 years after the "date closed."  Closed accounts can fall off sooner, but that's fairly rare.  You originally thought it closed in 2006, but since you have reinvestigated and discovered the correct date of 2009 you will likely be fine. The original date I stated was when we sold the house.  When you said it may fall off soon - desperation set in and made me look at the closed date. Smiley Tongue

 

Be sure to get that second card back in action.  That's important.  You have a lot of accounts and a high AAoA, so adding a third card won't hurt your AAoA much, if you decide to do that.


 

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In preparation to deal with the unused CC in the coming days, I looked on the CR and saw that it is issued by Comenity Bank for a dept. store.  

 

I decided to see if there were any posts about them on this site.  There are tons!  Geesh.  It doesn't look good at all.  

 

Given all the complaints, I'm afraid to rock the boat with them.  Would you still touch this card given Comenity's reputation?  What if, instead of reissuing the card, they closed it instead?  How will that affect my score.  Sigh.

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From what I've read (and I could be wrong) most of the Comenity cards that are being closed are people who have high credit lines* between all of their Comenity cards, are refusing to verify their income through the 3rd party agency that Comenity has hired, and are more likely to have one of the Visa's issued by Comenity.  

 

If your store card is a low credit line your risk is small.  Besides, if you have a $300 or $500 or something total credit line with a store card, and you never charge more than $40 or something, and they closed you, it would be easy for you to pay off that balance.  I think the writers above are encouraging you to NOT open a new account somewhere (and therefore take a new HP in the year before your mortgage, I think it's best to minimize HP's at least 6 months before) and instead to utilize an open account.

 

*Some of the credit lines I've read about have been $100K or more and people have had many multiples of cards with them.  Less than 5 seems to be a safer number.

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@Anonymous wrote:

From what I've read (and I could be wrong) most of the Comenity cards that are being closed are people who have high credit lines* between all of their Comenity cards, are refusing to verify their income through the 3rd party agency that Comenity has hired, and are more likely to have one of the Visa's issued by Comenity.  

 

If your store card is a low credit line your risk is small.  Besides, if you have a $300 or $500 or something total credit line with a store card, and you never charge more than $40 or something, and they closed you, it would be easy for you to pay off that balance.  I think the writers above are encouraging you to NOT open a new account somewhere (and therefore take a new HP in the year before your mortgage, I think it's best to minimize HP's at least 6 months before) and instead to utilize an open account.

 

*Some of the credit lines I've read about have been $100K or more and people have had many multiples of cards with them.  Less than 5 seems to be a safer number.


It is a low CL - $750.  If they close it, won't that impact my score in a negative way?  Sorry for so many questions. So much to learn when you know so little about these things and trying to play catch up.  LOL.

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If they close it, it will hurt your score.  That's because FICO likes it when you have:

      most of your CCs showing a $0 balance

      at least one of your CCs showing a positive balance

 

If either of those is untrue, you get penalized.  With only one open card, you would be forced to have either zero cards showing a positive balance or ALL of your cards showing a positive balance.  With two open cards, you'd be able to have one card at $0 and one with a positive balance, which is a marked improvement.  The mortgage models give you even more points for having multiple $0 cards (as long as one is still positive).

 

So it is certain that the issuer closing your card would hurt your score.

 

What is also certain is that a well-known cause of CC issuers closing a card is a long stretch of inactivity.  In other words, it is certain that your issuer will close your card eventually -- because you are not using it.  If you were to use it tomorrow, then this could be averted.

 

The open question for you then is this.  Which is more probable?

 

(A)  The issuer will cancel my card due to inactivity in the next twelve months.

 

(B)  The issuer will cancel my card if I reach out to the store and tell them I really want to use it.

 

My feeling is that if you were to get your existing CC debt paid down quite a bit (e.g. paid down to < 29%) and get the new lower balance reflected on your credit reports, then (B) would be less likely than (A).  Remember that CC issuers like the idea of consumers wanting to use their cards, as long as the consumer appears to be reasonably low-risk.

 

But of course (B) is always a possibility.  I don't deny that it is possible.  What I do know is that if you wait too much longer without using your card, the issuer will cancel it.  So you have to weigh risks and choose what appears to you to be the safest course,  That could be either way and is up to you.  There's no obvious right answer.

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@Anonymous wrote:

If they close it, it will hurt your score.  That's because FICO likes it when you have:

      most of your CCs showing a $0 balance

      at least one of your CCs showing a positive balance

 

If either of those is untrue, you get penalized.  With only one open card, you would be forced to have either zero cards showing a positive balance or ALL of your cards showing a positive balance.  With two open cards, you'd be able to have one card at $0 and one with a positive balance, which is a marked improvement.  The mortgage models give you even more points for having multiple $0 cards (as long as one is still positive).

 

So it is certain that the issuer closing your card would hurt your score.

 

What is also certain is that a well-known cause of CC issuers closing a card is a long stretch of inactivity.  In other words, it is certain that your issuer will close your card eventually -- because you are not using it.  If you were to use it tomorrow, then this could be averted.

 

The open question for you then is this.  Which is more probable?

 

(A)  The issuer will cancel my card due to inactivity in the next twelve months.

 

(B)  The issuer will cancel my card if I reach out to the store and tell them I really want to use it.

 

My feeling is that if you were to get your existing CC debt paid down quite a bit (e.g. paid down to < 29%) and get the new lower balance reflected on your credit reports, then (B) would be less likely than (A).  Remember that CC issuers like the idea of consumers wanting to use their cards, as long as the consumer appears to be reasonably low-risk.

 

But of course (B) is always a possibility.  I don't deny that it is possible.  What I do know is that if you wait too much longer without using your card, the issuer will cancel it.  So you have to weigh risks and choose what appears to you to be the safest course,  That could be either way and is up to you.  There's no obvious right answer.


No guts, no glory...so I'll reach out to them today.  Hopefully they won't be the Comenity I've read about in some posts.  If they tell me they will re-issue me a new card, hopefully they will and not turn around and close it instead. Smiley Surprised

 

Thanks everyone for your input.  I truly appreciate it. Smiley Happy

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@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

If they close it, it will hurt your score.  That's because FICO likes it when you have:

      most of your CCs showing a $0 balance

      at least one of your CCs showing a positive balance

 

If either of those is untrue, you get penalized.  With only one open card, you would be forced to have either zero cards showing a positive balance or ALL of your cards showing a positive balance.  With two open cards, you'd be able to have one card at $0 and one with a positive balance, which is a marked improvement.  The mortgage models give you even more points for having multiple $0 cards (as long as one is still positive).

 

So it is certain that the issuer closing your card would hurt your score.

 

What is also certain is that a well-known cause of CC issuers closing a card is a long stretch of inactivity.  In other words, it is certain that your issuer will close your card eventually -- because you are not using it.  If you were to use it tomorrow, then this could be averted.

 

The open question for you then is this.  Which is more probable?

 

(A)  The issuer will cancel my card due to inactivity in the next twelve months.

 

(B)  The issuer will cancel my card if I reach out to the store and tell them I really want to use it.

 

My feeling is that if you were to get your existing CC debt paid down quite a bit (e.g. paid down to < 29%) and get the new lower balance reflected on your credit reports, then (B) would be less likely than (A).  Remember that CC issuers like the idea of consumers wanting to use their cards, as long as the consumer appears to be reasonably low-risk.

 

But of course (B) is always a possibility.  I don't deny that it is possible.  What I do know is that if you wait too much longer without using your card, the issuer will cancel it.  So you have to weigh risks and choose what appears to you to be the safest course,  That could be either way and is up to you.  There's no obvious right answer.


No guts, no glory...so I'll reach out to them today.  Hopefully they won't be the Comenity I've read about in some posts.  If they tell me they will re-issue me a new card, hopefully they will and not turn around and close it instead. Smiley Surprised

 

Thanks everyone for your input.  I truly appreciate it. Smiley Happy


Good news. I called Comenity and they found the account to the CC I have with them and will re-issue it.  They said it definitely wasn't closed.  I had to confirm my address, income, etc.  Per the customer service rep, the CC should be here in 7-10 days!  Whoo hoo! Smiley Happy

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Re: Need Guidance in increasing score

Glad to hear it all worked out, pal.

 

As soon as it arrives, activate it and then buy something with it.  It's a store card, so you may need to wait for a while until you find something you actually and truly want/need.  But do that as soon as is convenient.  Allow the statement to print with a positive balance and then a week after the statement pay it in full.  Try doing that each month for Oct, Nov, Dec.  You'll have established yourself clearly as a Transactor on that card, which is good.  Then you can go back to $0 balances if you want.

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@Anonymous wrote:

Glad to hear it all worked out, pal.

 

As soon as it arrives, activate it and then buy something with it.  It's a store card, so you may need to wait for a while until you find something you actually and truly want/need.  But do that as soon as is convenient.  Allow the statement to print with a positive balance and then a week after the statement pay it in full.  Try doing that each month for Oct, Nov, Dec.  You'll have established yourself clearly as a Transactor on that card, which is good.  Then you can go back to $0 balances if you want.


Sounds good. Thanks everyone for the input.

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