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radfam
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Never seen anything like this

DH and I both actively trying to repair our credit.  He has 17 student loan tradelines that we didn't realize came out of deferrment.  He got a 90d in November, we logged in to his account and immediately requested a forbearance.  It was granted for 01/2019-03/2019. Yesterday, he got a score update for each of the 17 tradelines.  Picture attached for one of the TLs as to what we are seeing. All 17 TL alerts look like this.  It looks like the 120d late hit for December, which would be consistent for what we expected to see.  However, it is the score increase that is making me scratch my head.  I won't get to see a MF subscription update until Sunday to see what actually happened.


Is it possible that the score increase happened because of another event, such as cc utl decreasing?  I cannot fathom not seeing a score DROP for a 120d late posting.  Thoughts?

 

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Pikaboo-icu
Valued Contributor

Re: Never seen anything like this

Yes, it's not only possible, it's exactly what happened.

 

The score raise was not associated with the 90 day late reporting.

This is a common occurrence here- as the updates can have more than one activity.

 

You'll only get an alert when a scoreable event occurs, within that alert you may see other events that didn't cause a score change. 

  


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FireMedic1
Community Leader
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Re: Never seen anything like this

I agree with Pika. But look at the pic. It already says account is 120 days past due. So its a scratch your head whats up with that type thing. Looks like it already posted?


TWO MORE MONTHS NO BK! (on Eq/Ex)
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radfam
Frequent Contributor

Re: Never seen anything like this

We were expecting it to post 120d in December, since the forbearance period that was granted did not begin until 01/2019.  It was just so odd to see points increase while also seeing a 120d late hit.

 

However, DH is added as an AU on those CCs in my other thread with the decreasing Utl.  As you already saw, I saw a big increase in my scores today.  I'm now assuming DH's scores went up with the utl decrease on my CCs, and it coincided with the 120d late showing up too.  

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FireMedic1
Community Leader
Mega Contributor

Re: Never seen anything like this

Its a long shot. But I think it may be due to the other things like you said. But it wouldnt go up like you said with the AU stuff. Baffling. But 120 lates usualy new hit you with 100 or more points. But that didnt happen on the above alert. But as a fellow MyFICO customer. Alerts dont usually show the whole picture until the next update. If it was me I'd have a strong drink waiting that the above sticks. And then take a chug when the next update stay the same. Good Luck!


TWO MORE MONTHS NO BK! (on Eq/Ex)
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radfam
Frequent Contributor

Re: Never seen anything like this

Haha strong drinks indeed.  His subscription updates on 1/13 as well, so I guess I may know more then. Smiley Happy 

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Never seen anything like this

Well, the starting score is a give away: we're not talking clean file or anywhere close to it so the 100 point drop or whatever is off the table.

 

If you have the myFICO monitoring I'd be interested to see before and after reason codes from Transunion alerts, but a lot depends on what was on your file before and what is on your file now.

 

Could have been some other change which is probably 90% likely.




        
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radfam
Frequent Contributor

Re: Never seen anything like this

Thanks for the feedback! You are correct, obviously his file is not clean. Which is how I’m on the forums m. I posted this because I was confused how he got a score increase with a late payment posting. The reasoning in the alert was perplexing to me. I’m assuming fully that other factors are in play here. I just didn’t know if anyone else had ever seen something like this.
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Anonymous
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Re: Never seen anything like this

I've always been under the impression that a 90 day late and a 120 day late are both scored exactly the same way when it comes to how the FICO algorithm handles them.  That being said, if someone get hit with a 90 day reporting one month, then the following month the same account reports 120 days late, I personally don't think you'd expect to see a score drop.  The algorithm sees the major delinquency of 0 months in age the first month, then sees the major delinquency with 0 months of age the following month.

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