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New account didn’t drop score??

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New account didn’t drop score??

I had mentioned something in the approval forum and I was surprised that no one commented on it so I figured that I would mention it here.
http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Approvals/Citi-Double-Cash-Approval/td-p/5163342

Anyway, long story short, I was approved for a Citi DC. When the new account notifications started coming in on myfico alerts, I thought it was odd that the new account did not effect my Fico 8 score on any of the 3 bureaus. Also, upon taking a 2nd hard pull credit increase when I received the card, again I got the pull myfico notification and again my Fico 8 score remained the same.

Now I’m not complaining, lol, but I have never heard of a new account and a credit inquiry not dropping a score some. What gives? Is this an error? Are there buffers for a dirty bucket?

I’m real curious about this because I have never heard this talked about on here.
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Kree
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Re: New account didn’t drop score??

Two thoughts,

 

1.  I believe that the general concensus is that dirty buckets have score maximums, so you could be correct in thinking that you have a buffer of points.

 

2. Some other innocuous change, such as an account hitting 6 months of age, could have offset the inquiry/new account by the exact same points.

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: New account didn’t drop score??

I also though about your #2 point but figured the chances of that happening the exact number of points on all 3 bureaus was pretty slim. Suppose it’s possible though. 

 

i have heard buffers talked talked about extensively regarding max 850 scores but I can’t recall reading about dirty bucket buffers. 

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Kree
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Re: New account didn’t drop score??

I think I found a bucket max for mortgage scores.  Two of my three reports are exactly at 725, the third one is lower, but TU has an erroneous 30d on it.   I'll know in 3 days.

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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: New account didn’t drop score??


@Anonymouswrote:

I also though about your #2 point but figured the chances of that happening the exact number of points on all 3 bureaus was pretty slim. Suppose it’s possible though. 

 

i have heard buffers talked talked about extensively regarding max 850 scores but I can’t recall reading about dirty bucket buffers. 


Dirty scorecards do have maximums and there may be buffers. Additionally, if you had opened a new account or accounts relatively recently, adding another one a few months later often has no impact on score - the penalty has alredy been assessed. Many believe (myself included) that inquiries are binned. If so, adding or removing an inquiry only affects score if it changes bins.

 

An example of inquiry binning is:

0, 1, 2-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10 or more.

 

Here is something else regarding inquiries that may be of interest:

Fico 08 inquiry buffer.jpg

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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