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OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU

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CUBANCOMET
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OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU

I am reading two opinions, quite a lot, throughout the internet.
 
Some say pif all your cards for 0 utilization.
 
Others say leave 1-10 %.
 
who is right????
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haulingthescoreup
Moderator Emerita

Re: OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU

1. Have your overall util between 1% and 9%. I've had my overall at less than 1/100th of 1%, and that was fine, too.

2. Have each card 9% or less; 4% or less seems better.

3. For optimum, have as many cards as possible at $0, and one or two showing a balance of 1-9% (1-4% seems even better.)

Before I blew my scores out of the water, I actually did best on TU (only on TU) to have all cards at $0, but I've read so many results from others that they were hurt with all $0's that I think that was a quirk of my particular bucket and situation. HTH
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Anonymous
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Re: OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU



@haulingthescoreup wrote:
3. For optimum, have as many cards as possible at $0, and one or two showing a balance of 1-9% (1-4% seems even better.)

Before I blew my scores out of the water, I actually did best on TU (only on TU) to have all cards at $0, but I've read so many results from others that they were hurt with all $0's that I think that was a quirk of my particular bucket and situation. HTH




Is this 1-9% of total CC util? or 1-9% of the individual CC?

I've always thought the util questions here pertained to overall util. But you point #2 has raised some questions in me.

Thanks.
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haulingthescoreup
Moderator Emerita

Re: OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU

FICO scores you on both overall AND individual util. So it's possible to have really high util on one card, for instance a 0% BT card, and still have overall low util. You have to have a pretty high total credit limit though.

As best as I can tell, that under 10% think applies to both cases.

Some members have posted not being smacked on their scores with one really high util card and everything else low or $0. There haven't been enough posts about this from different people to figure out exactly when this happens. The dust is still settling on my scores, and I have another $4K in total credit limit to show up (with two more cards), so it will be a while before I figure out if this is true for me.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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fused
Moderator Emeritus

Re: OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU



haulingthescoreup wrote:
FICO scores you on both overall AND individual util. So it's possible to have really high util on one card, for instance a 0% BT card, and still have overall low util. You have to have a pretty high total credit limit though.

As best as I can tell, that under 10% think applies to both cases.

Some members have posted not being smacked on their scores with one really high util card and everything else low or $0. There haven't been enough posts about this from different people to figure out exactly when this happens. The dust is still settling on my scores, and I have another $4K in total credit limit to show up (with two more cards), so it will be a while before I figure out if this is true for me.

It's been rumored that folks with thick files are more likely to get away with a single CC nearly maxed-out.
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MidnightVoice
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Re: OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU



fused wrote:

It's been rumored that folks with thick files are more likely to get away with a single CC nearly maxed-out.



Well, EX thinks my Heloc is a CC and hates it being at 75% util! (50 points of hate)
The slide from grace is really more like gliding
And I've found the trick is not to stop the sliding
But to find a graceful way of staying slid
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fused
Moderator Emeritus

Re: OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU



MidnightVoice wrote:


fused wrote:

It's been rumored that folks with thick files are more likely to get away with a single CC nearly maxed-out.



Well, EX thinks my Heloc is a CC and hates it being at 75% util! (50 points of hate)


Are you sure EX has it wrong and your not lender miscoding it? I have a new BoA unsecured LOC for 26.5K (not tied to a house) and it's reported as a home equity loan on EX.
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Anonymous
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Re: OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU

I just got a shock.
 
I got an e-mail today that my credit score went down 18pts, from 730 to 712...the reason given was vague.
 
I have 11 personal credit cards (one card has a credit limits up to 55.5k) and utilization on all cards from 0 to 30%, that i keep a close eye on.
 
Then i needed to make a business charge, so i used one of my personal cards w/ 0 balance so i could know the $$$$ used separate from my personal charge.
 
But, stupid me, i picked a card w/ a 3.5k limit for a 1.7k charge....i.e. over 50% utilization. Last Tuesday (Mar11) was the statement date, so I and the world found out about it Mar12, my credit dropped 18 pts on Mar14.
 
What i should have done is pay it off or to 1-9% utilization before Mar11.
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haulingthescoreup
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Re: OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU


@fused wrote:

@haulingthescoreup wrote:
Some members have posted not being smacked on their scores with one really high util card and everything else low or $0. There haven't been enough posts about this from different people to figure out exactly when this happens. The dust is still settling on my scores, and I have another $4K in total credit limit to show up (with two more cards), so it will be a while before I figure out if this is true for me.
It's been rumored that folks with thick files are more likely to get away with a single CC nearly maxed-out.
Well, I thickened it up the best I could! Smiley Very Happy

We'll see. I doubt that 13 open accounts, 18 total will do the trick.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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MidnightVoice
Super Contributor

Re: OPTIMUM UTILIZATION % - WHAT SHOULD IT BE - EXPERTS PLEASE - THANK YOU



fused wrote:

Are you sure EX has it wrong and your not lender miscoding it? I have a new BoA unsecured LOC for 26.5K (not tied to a house) and it's reported as a home equity loan on EX.


I think the CU has it right, and it is not considered a CC by TU or EQ.  But it is not worth any effort to follow up - it is really not impacting my life adversely at the moment
The slide from grace is really more like gliding
And I've found the trick is not to stop the sliding
But to find a graceful way of staying slid
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