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toothgrind3r
Established Contributor

Overall utilization vers per-card?

Is there a difference as far as scoring goes?

 

Let's say I have 5 cards:

Card 1 - $2,000 CL

Card 2 - $2,000 CL

Card 3 - $2,000 CL

Card 4 - $2,000 CL

Card 5 - $20,000 CL

 

Let's say these are my balances:

Card 1 - $2,000 CL - $1,000 balance

Card 2 - $2,000 CL - $0 balance

Card 3 - $2,000 CL - $0 balance

Card 4 - $2,000 CL - $0 balance

Card 5 - $20,000 CL - $0 balance

 

So, card #1 is reporting a 50% utilization.

But with the overall available credit being $28,000, the utilization would be in that magic area of less then 10%

 

So, in that situation, would a score take a hit because of the 50% utilization reporting for that one card, or would it be fine because of overall avail credit?

I've got some cards. Some are pretty, some are ugly. Some are more useful than others.
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Anonymous
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Re: Overall utilization vers per-card?


@toothgrind3r wrote:

Is there a difference as far as scoring goes?

 

Let's say I have 5 cards:

Card 1 - $2,000 CL

Card 2 - $2,000 CL

Card 3 - $2,000 CL

Card 4 - $2,000 CL

Card 5 - $20,000 CL

 

Let's say these are my balances:

Card 1 - $2,000 CL - $1,000 balance

Card 2 - $2,000 CL - $0 balance

Card 3 - $2,000 CL - $0 balance

Card 4 - $2,000 CL - $0 balance

Card 5 - $20,000 CL - $0 balance

 

So, card #1 is reporting a 50% utilization.

But with the overall available credit being $28,000, the utilization would be in that magic area of less then 10%

 

So, in that situation, would a score take a hit because of the 50% utilization reporting for that one card, or would it be fine because of overall avail credit?


I think you'd take a hit. I'd BT the $1,000 to the $20,000 line if possible.

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Anonymous
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Re: Overall utilization vers per-card?


@Anonymous wrote:

@toothgrind3r wrote:

Is there a difference as far as scoring goes?

 

Let's say I have 5 cards:

Card 1 - $2,000 CL

Card 2 - $2,000 CL

Card 3 - $2,000 CL

Card 4 - $2,000 CL

Card 5 - $20,000 CL

 

Let's say these are my balances:

Card 1 - $2,000 CL - $1,000 balance

Card 2 - $2,000 CL - $0 balance

Card 3 - $2,000 CL - $0 balance

Card 4 - $2,000 CL - $0 balance

Card 5 - $20,000 CL - $0 balance

 

So, card #1 is reporting a 50% utilization.

But with the overall available credit being $28,000, the utilization would be in that magic area of less then 10%

 

So, in that situation, would a score take a hit because of the 50% utilization reporting for that one card, or would it be fine because of overall avail credit?


I think you'd take a hit. I'd BT the $1,000 to the $20,000 line if possible.


I agree with that. 

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-NewGuy-
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Overall utilization vers per-card?

You would indeed take a hit. UTIL is scored in two ways, your overall UTIL (across all accouts) as well as individual UTIL across each account. So your score in the above scenario would indeed be affected, although I can't say how much.

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toothgrind3r
Established Contributor

Re: Overall utilization vers per-card?

This was more of a hypothetical question so I can better understand the scoring system.  Not really a situation I am in right now.

But thank you!

I've got some cards. Some are pretty, some are ugly. Some are more useful than others.
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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Overall utilization vers per-card?


@-NewGuy- wrote:

You would indeed take a hit. UTIL is scored in two ways, your overall UTIL (across all accouts) as well as individual UTIL across each account. So your score in the above scenario would indeed be affected, although I can't say how much.


I agree with all this.

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Overall utilization vers per-card?


@MarineVietVet wrote:

@-NewGuy- wrote:

You would indeed take a hit. UTIL is scored in two ways, your overall UTIL (across all accouts) as well as individual UTIL across each account. So your score in the above scenario would indeed be affected, although I can't say how much.


I agree with all this.


+2; however, to add, in my own testing I haven't seen a ding until I hit the maxxed out tradeline on my own ugly report which unfortunately the best resolution I have is somewhere between 76-93% single card utilization currently; however, YMMV especially with a cleaner report.  Someday I'll be purchasing enough to actually run up some balances for testing purposes (or maybe I'll get one of those 0% fee convenience checks... yeah, right) to play with but won't happen anytime soon.

 

I still wouldn't leave a card at 50% though if I were trying to maximize my score if we're talking hypotheticals and eeking out the last few points on an application to hit a higher tier.




        
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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Overall utilization vers per-card?


@Revelate wrote:

@MarineVietVet wrote:

@-NewGuy- wrote:

You would indeed take a hit. UTIL is scored in two ways, your overall UTIL (across all accouts) as well as individual UTIL across each account. So your score in the above scenario would indeed be affected, although I can't say how much.


I agree with all this.


+2; however, to add, in my own testing I haven't seen a ding until I hit the maxxed out tradeline on my own ugly report which unfortunately the best resolution I have is somewhere between 76-93% single card utilization currently; however, YMMV especially with a cleaner report.  Someday I'll be purchasing enough to actually run up some balances for testing purposes (or maybe I'll get one of those 0% fee convenience checks... yeah, right) to play with but won't happen anytime soon.

 

I still wouldn't leave a card at 50% though if I were trying to maximize my score if we're talking hypotheticals and eeking out the last few points on an application to hit a higher tier.


Yep. Much depends on what your goals and strategies are.

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