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***PLEASE HELP***

Hi guys. As some of you know I have been having trouble with lenders trying to pull my CR an scores. Including MyFICO. Well thanks to many of you I assume this is because my file is very thin. Now I'm not sure as if I am indeed "new" to credit as I removed almost all of my negative accounts. I haven't used my credit in over 7 years. I have never had any CC before until now. As some of you may know, during my renewed credit journey, I was able to obtain 3 secured credit cards. BOA, Cap 1 an Discover IT. I was also able to obtain 2 installment loans. 1 auto loan an 1 shared secure loan. Up until now discover has been giving me a monthly fico scores. As of last month 11/6/2014 Discover says my TU fico is 671. Oddly enough, I don't know what to think. Yesterday morning I decided to see if credit sesame displayed a updated fico. Too my surprise, it's said my score drop over 625 points to Zero. I did go back and look at my CR an my 1st CC an Installment loan was 1st reported in August. Now reading some post from other I can see that I am one month from being active on credit for 6 months. Could this be the reason for my credit fako score is now showing *0*? Is this because as of 1/1/2015 my 6th month on credit will generate a actual fico score? I have also read others try to pin point where they may stand in terms of fico. Some have stated they have seen people around 680 +/-. Now in my situation, being that technically I'm not "new" to credit. I still have 1 collection account that was 1st reported on 10/2011 to Experian an Transunion. An 1 judgment that was 1st reported on 10/2009 to Equifax only. Will I still possibly be around 680+/- when fico decides to calculate a fico for me next month? Also is it a possibility that my Discover IT fico will change as well? I have managed to keep my utilization to only 1% since day one. Any advice that can be offered is much appreciated. Many thanks guys.


Mark
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NRB525
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Re: ***PLEASE HELP***


@Anonymous wrote:
Hi guys. As some of you know I have been having trouble with lenders trying to pull my CR an scores. Including MyFICO. Well thanks to many of you I assume this is because my file is very thin. Now I'm not sure as if I am indeed "new" to credit as I removed almost all of my negative accounts. I haven't used my credit in over 7 years. I have never had any CC before until now. As some of you may know, during my renewed credit journey, I was able to obtain 3 secured credit cards. BOA, Cap 1 an Discover IT. I was also able to obtain 2 installment loans. 1 auto loan an 1 shared secure loan. Up until now discover has been giving me a monthly fico scores. As of last month 11/6/2014 Discover says my TU fico is 671. Oddly enough, I don't know what to think. Yesterday morning I decided to see if credit sesame displayed a updated fico. Too my surprise, it's said my score drop over 625 points to Zero. I did go back and look at my CR an my 1st CC an Installment loan was 1st reported in August. Now reading some post from other I can see that I am one month from being active on credit for 6 months. Could this be the reason for my credit fako score is now showing *0*? Is this because as of 1/1/2015 my 6th month on credit will generate a actual fico score? I have also read others try to pin point where they may stand in terms of fico. Some have stated they have seen people around 680 +/-. Now in my situation, being that technically I'm not "new" to credit. I still have 1 collection account that was 1st reported on 10/2011 to Experian an Transunion. An 1 judgment that was 1st reported on 10/2009 to Equifax only. Will I still possibly be around 680+/- when fico decides to calculate a fico for me next month? Also is it a possibility that my Discover IT fico will change as well? I have managed to keep my utilization to only 1% since day one. Any advice that can be offered is much appreciated. Many thanks guys.


Mark

My understanding from other posters is Credit Sesame is a FAKO first last and forever, so there's something boloxed in their formula. You don't have a zero in FICO (or FAKO) because that isn't the low end of the scale.

Discover should update your FICO score with your next statement, soon, and that is a real FICO score. I get that with my monthly Discover statement. CapOne also.

Have you tried the credit score, credit report, and monitoring here? It costs money, but IMO it's worth it not to spend hours searching through bogus websites hoping to find a number you like. Since you are building your score, $20 per month will get you accurate updates of what is being added / changed on your credit reports if you use the 3 Bureau monitoring.

And to reiterate, you should have a FICO score, likely still in that 670 range.

And congratulations on improving your score!

 

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Yes I have tried to buy a fico score from here but they can't pull anything. Me an others have come to the conclusion that until I actually hit 6 months I may not be able to see a fic score anywhere. My confusion comes in when Discover sends me my "FICO" score with each statement every month. How can I not be able to get a Fico score from here or through lenders but Discover can give me one with my statement every month. Now I know that my Discover is TU an the one I was trying to obtain is EX, how could this be? In October my Discover statement said I was a 644. After removing 1 of 2 baddies, my next statement from Discover it (11/6/14) reflected a increase of 44pts (671). I still have one baddie on my CR from a traffic ticket I got in 2011. 

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Anonymous
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Thank you. If it wasn't for you guys I would not be as far as  I am tonight.

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NRB525
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Ok, well I must be wrong then, the "6-months of any history" could be a requirement.

It still seems like you have to have SOME level of credit history, even if it does not lead to a FICO score calculation. Building to the 6-month mark, that is recording payment history right now. Seems like that should be available for you from the bureaus.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Correct. I am able to obtain a 3 scores directly from the bureau. Wierd!!!

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CreditDunce
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It is not quite correct that you have to have a good account with 6 months reporting for a FICO score.   Here is the link for the exact requirements:

http://www.myfico.com/crediteducation/questions/requirement-for-fico-score.aspx

 

Could it be that your EX, EQ and TU have different information.   TU may still have an account open for more than 6 months.  Now that you have positive data being reported, TU generates a report.

 

EX may not think you have any accounts open for more than 6 months.

 

If you haven't pulled all of your free annual credit reports, that would be the way to find out.  For EX, be sure to write down the report number.  With it you can pull update reports as often as you like (EX only).

 

PS.  When you pull credit scores from EX or TU directly, it is not a FICO score.  Most of the scores you can pull for EQ are also FAKO, but they do sell one FICO (EQ-04) score. 

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Anonymous
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Actually EX has the most open accounts. 6 to be exact. The others have only 5 because my auto loan only reports to EX. Now I do have 2 closed installment accounts on TU from 2005 that are currently reporting to TU only. I am not sure as to why NO one can pull a Ex report on me but Discover has been giving me a TU Fico.

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Anonymous
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Up until December 1st, I was at least getting a USELESS FAKO from credit sesame. When I refreshed my USELESS credit sesame on December 1st it said my score is zero. I was thinking maybe cause as of January will be my 6th month on credit. I don't know. All my open an active account started reporting to all 3 bereaus in August. So would my 6th month be in-fact be January?

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CreditDunce
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If they all of old TL's showing, I don't know why you don't have an EX score.   You should get a credit score as soon as you have a positive trade line reporting and at least one account that is 6 months old.   Maybe EX follows different rules for generating a credit score.

 

The way I read the requirements is it doesnt' matter the number of times an account has reported.  It just matters what the account's opening date is.  For example, if you had a completely clean credit report and open an Amex CC with an MSD of 2000, you should get a credit score after the first statement.  The Amex account will appear to be 14 years old.

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