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Perfect 850 score question

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manyquestions
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Re: Perfect 850 score question


@Anonymous wrote:
Any inquiries in the last year or new accounts in the last year?

One new inquiry and one new account within last 12 months.  

 

There have been posters who have reported 850 scores with multiple new inquiries and new accounts under 12 months.  I remember one poster started his own thread about his thoughts on new inquiries and new accounts being grouped together and counted as one because he did a little app-o-rama and his scores still stayed at 850 after everything reported.

 

Edit: This is the thread I was thinking of. Scroll to the last post in thread.  (As of today, I  have an EQ FICO 8 score of 850 with 11 inquiries in the last 2 months.)

 

 

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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: Perfect 850 score question

FWIW - My understanding is all hard inquiries (even those for CCs) are subject to a 30 buffer before influencing score Some believe that credit card inquiries are De-duped as a category same as Mortgage and Auto - each being its own discrete category. Thus, the potential benefit of a spree with regard to impact of inquiries.  Of course, all new accounts are counted individually.

 

Inquiries summary.jpg

 

Fico 08 inquiry buffer.jpg

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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iv
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Re: Perfect 850 score question


@manyquestions wrote:
 

There have been posters who have reported 850 scores with multiple new inquiries and new accounts under 12 months.  

 


Yep.  Turns out to be pretty easy. (Assuming you're starting with a strong/aged file.)

 

Two new accounts (auto loans, one from May, one from July), and 1 inquiry each on EQ/EX still results in FICO8 850s here.  The same two new accounts, but with 4 inquiries on TU, does drop down into the 830s/840s.

 

(This is without any attempt to "optimize" utilization at all... depending on reporting dates, EQ has sometimes dropped slightly under 850, but EX has stayed "pinned".  It's possible that micro-management there could even pull TU up to 850... but meh. Doesn't really matter.)

 

Of course, that's just for FICO8.  For the mortgage scores (which matter more to me, in general), the new accounts and inquires did drop EQ5/TU4/EX2 from close to each scale's max down to the 780s/790s.  Still "high enough"... but lower than I'd prefer.

 

EQ8:850 TU8:850 EX8:850
EQ9:847 TU9:847 EX9:839
EQ5:797 TU4:807 EX2:813 - 2021-06-06
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