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Potential [zero] score drop from mortgage refi?

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Potential [zero] score drop from mortgage refi?

Just sort of thinking this through as I type.  AoYRA being a scorecard reassignment factor on a clean file (thick/aged also) would mean a mortgage refi would not result in scorecard reassignment.  That being said, if the original mortgage being refinanced was at high utilization, which is the case for most 30-year mortgages paid down for under (say) 10 years, the new loan that replaces it may have similar utilization from a scoring perspective.  Perhaps one moves from 80% utilization to 100%, for example.  Could one theoretically see little to no score drop from a refi?  There could of course be an inquiry per bureau, but if bucketed it may or may not impact score.  AAoA would drop from the new account, but if a threshold weren't crossed it wouldn't impact score.

 

Just curious if any members have done this and if so what their [scoring] results were and of course just opinions on this in general would be cool to hear.  I ask of course because this is the boat I'm in personally, looking toward a mortgage refi in 2021. 

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dragontears
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Re: Potential [zero] score drop from mortgage refi?

Which model are you concerned about? In my experience, FICO8 didn't change when my new mortgage reported but all of my mortgage scores dropped about 20 points. 

This was a purchase. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Potential [zero] score drop from mortgage refi?

I guess all of them really.  I wasn't thinking about any specific model.  When your new mortgage reported, what was the status of your other mortgage?  Since you said new purchase I'm thinking perhaps your first mortgage was still open.  If that's the case, it may not really be the same situation that I described above in terms of installment loan utilization not changing much.  And of course you'd then possibly have 2 open mortgages, where my example results in only one.

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Anonymous
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Re: Potential [zero] score drop from mortgage refi?

On car loans, had this happen with I think <2 point change.
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Anonymous
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Re: Potential [zero] score drop from mortgage refi?

Were you able to nail down the 2 points to being age of accounts related, inquiry related, or something else specifically like aggregate installment loan percentage shift?

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Anonymous
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Re: Potential [zero] score drop from mortgage refi?

It was not inquiry related, nor AAoA, AoYA, or AoOLA. Not amounts owed either, as it was a buy and almost immediate refi, ~100%>100%, 30 days old?

Maybe AAoLA? Wasnt tracking that back then, didn’t know. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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