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Question about FICO 8 vs FICO 9

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houstex75
Established Member

Question about FICO 8 vs FICO 9

Hi all. My monthly 3B myFICO report just dropped today. I'm seeing a pretty significant difference between my FICO 8's and FICO 9's and curious why.

 

The only thing I can think of is I have two paid collections reporting to all CBs that I did PFD on, since FICO 9's don't count paid collections. One collection has dropped off on TU, still reporting on EX and EQ. Other is still reporting on all three (hopefully both should drop off by end of this month or in February). Both $0 balance.

 

Could I really see my 8's jump this high when that does happen? Are there any other factors I'm not aware of? Thanks!!

 

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Starting FICO 8 Scores (10/1/23):
Current FICO 8 Scores (3/9/25):

Goal FICO 8 Scores:
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Question about FICO 8 vs FICO 9

Possible differences between FICO 9 & FICO 8:
-paid collections not counted in 9
-unpaid collections given more weight in 9
-medical collections given less weight in 9
-rental history counted in 9
-recent inquiries given less weight in 9
-average age of accounts given less weight in 9
-no. of accts reporting balance given more weight in 9
-premium for open as opposed to closed installment loans reduced in 9
-installment loan utilization percentage given more weight in 9
-9 more sensitive to revolving utilization
-9 has a separate clean scorecard for people with high revolving utilization
-9 may be more sensitive to multiple late payments


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 699 TU 696 EX 673




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houstex75
Established Member

Re: Question about FICO 8 vs FICO 9


@SouthJamaica wrote:

Possible differences between FICO 9 & FICO 8:
-paid collections not counted in 9
-unpaid collections given more weight in 9
-medical collections given less weight in 9
-rental history counted in 9
-recent inquiries given less weight in 9
-average age of accounts given less weight in 9
-no. of accts reporting balance given more weight in 9
-premium for open as opposed to closed installment loans reduced in 9
-installment loan utilization percentage given more weight in 9
-9 more sensitive to revolving utilization
-9 has a separate clean scorecard for people with high revolving utilization
-9 may be more sensitive to multiple late payments


Wow! I knew there were some differences, but didn't realize this many! I do have low utilization (2%) but a lot of recent (<1yr) inquiries and my AAoA is <48 months, so I wonder if that's also contributing to the difference. Thanks for the info!

Starting FICO 8 Scores (10/1/23):
Current FICO 8 Scores (3/9/25):

Goal FICO 8 Scores:
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Question about FICO 8 vs FICO 9


@houstex75 wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

Possible differences between FICO 9 & FICO 8:
-paid collections not counted in 9
-unpaid collections given more weight in 9
-medical collections given less weight in 9
-rental history counted in 9
-recent inquiries given less weight in 9
-average age of accounts given less weight in 9
-no. of accts reporting balance given more weight in 9
-premium for open as opposed to closed installment loans reduced in 9
-installment loan utilization percentage given more weight in 9
-9 more sensitive to revolving utilization
-9 has a separate clean scorecard for people with high revolving utilization
-9 may be more sensitive to multiple late payments


Wow! I knew there were some differences, but didn't realize this many! I do have low utilization (2%) but a lot of recent (<1yr) inquiries and my AAoA is <48 months, so I wonder if that's also contributing to the difference. Thanks for the info!


Yeah we'll never really know, but I have a hunch that paid collections is the biggie in your profile.


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 699 TU 696 EX 673




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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Question about FICO 8 vs FICO 9

Collections on file can penalize 50 to 60 points. When the last one falls off or no longer counts due to being paid "pop goes the weasel" scorewise assuming other serious derogs aren't holding the score down.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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