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sunnydropgt
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Random Drop on Experian - Stressed

Hello! Wondering if anyone has any insight as to why a score on Experian will randomly drop by 14 points. I have a reported utilization of 0% but this morning I received the alert that my score dropped by that much. The only recent event that has happened was a fraudulent charge on a Discover card for a low amount ($10) from Amazon of all places. Discover had reissued me a new card and number immediately. Does this affect credit score?

 

Thank you!

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CreditCuriosity
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Re: Random Drop on Experian - Stressed

Not sure what your score is, but 14 points is a drop in the bucket tiny point loss for whatever reason.  FICO has no memory.  To answer your questions no a re-issued card has no effect on your FICO score.  0% utilization is a bad thing when coming to scoring.  Want 1 card to at least report a 1%+ balance if trying to maximize scores.

 

A few months ago I recently dropped 70 points from an 840+ scores to 770's depending on scoring model due to a new home hitting my report, a new car a car being paid off and some new CC accounts along with inquiries associated with it.  I know my scores will be back in the 830-840 range within a year.  Just alot of things going on with credit being maxed installment loan.  Read up on the scoring section of this forum and you wil learn alot of insight.

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Random Drop on Experian - Stressed


@sunnydropgt wrote:

Hello! Wondering if anyone has any insight as to why a score on Experian will randomly drop by 14 points. I have a reported utilization of 0% but this morning I received the alert that my score dropped by that much. The only recent event that has happened was a fraudulent charge on a Discover card for a low amount ($10) from Amazon of all places. Discover had reissued me a new card and number immediately. Does this affect credit score?

 

Thank you!


Sounds  like you might have been visited by the All Zero penalty... which occurs when all revolvers report zero balance


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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sunnydropgt
New Visitor

Re: Random Drop on Experian - Stressed

I had no idea that was even a thing. Everywhere was saying that a zero balance is good to keep the utilization rate low. Thanks for the insight though! So I guess I should keep it low but above $0...?

Will having like 1% this next month bounce it back? 

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Random Drop on Experian - Stressed


@sunnydropgt wrote:

I had no idea that was even a thing. Everywhere was saying that a zero balance is good to keep the utilization rate low. Thanks for the insight though! So I guess I should keep it low but above $0...?

Will having like 1% this next month bounce it back? 


it's good to have a lot of zero balances

 

but one bank card should be allowed to report a small balance before you pay it off 

 

it's ridiculous but it is what it is 


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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GZG
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Re: Random Drop on Experian - Stressed


@sunnydropgt wrote:

I had no idea that was even a thing. Everywhere was saying that a zero balance is good to keep the utilization rate low. Thanks for the insight though! So I guess I should keep it low but above $0...?

Will having like 1% this next month bounce it back? 


~1% or >$2 on a national bank credit card that isn't a store card, credit union card or charge card or Chase or US bank

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4/6, 4/12, 8/24 new accounts
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Zoostation1
Valued Contributor

Re: Random Drop on Experian - Stressed


@GZG wrote:

@sunnydropgt wrote:

I had no idea that was even a thing. Everywhere was saying that a zero balance is good to keep the utilization rate low. Thanks for the insight though! So I guess I should keep it low but above $0...?

Will having like 1% this next month bounce it back? 


~1% or >$2 on a national bank credit card that isn't a store card, credit union card or charge card or Chase or US bank


Whiel I don't have a US Bank card, I thought they were ok to use for the AZEO card as long as you account for them reporting at the end of the month and not when your statement closes?

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720orBust
Member

Re: Random Drop on Experian - Stressed

It's great to keep it low under 10%. But I didn't know 0% would be bad. Good to know 

Starting Score: 577EQ / 590 TU / 568EX 10/01/22
Current Score: 577EQ / 590 TU / 568EX
Goal Score: 720






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GZG
Senior Contributor

Re: Random Drop on Experian - Stressed


@Zoostation1 wrote:

@GZG wrote:

@sunnydropgt wrote:

I had no idea that was even a thing. Everywhere was saying that a zero balance is good to keep the utilization rate low. Thanks for the insight though! So I guess I should keep it low but above $0...?

Will having like 1% this next month bounce it back? 


~1% or >$2 on a national bank credit card that isn't a store card, credit union card or charge card or Chase or US bank


Whiel I don't have a US Bank card, I thought they were ok to use for the AZEO card as long as you account for them reporting at the end of the month and not when your statement closes?


Yeah that's correct. I guess I'm just fortunate to have all of my current cards due within 2 days of each other. Dealing with end of month US bank shenanigans would annoy me to no end.

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4/6, 4/12, 8/24 new accounts
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Zoostation1
Valued Contributor

Re: Random Drop on Experian - Stressed

When I had 2 cards I initially thought it would be good to have them around the same time, but now with 3 I like that they close at different times (it's easier for AZEO imo).  My only minor complaint is I wish Capital One closed on the same date each month instead of counting back 25 days from the following due date.

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