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Randomly Dropped 15 Points

Hello myFICO Users,

 

I've been working hard at restoring my credit since college. It was damaged because I found out that I had another student loan I didn't know existed after 6 months of missed payments.

 

I have 6 credit cards, but I only use one of them. I'm not sure if that contributed to my drop.

 

I was at 719 last month and went to 704 when I just checked. I have never missed a payment on a credit card before. Usually I try to get all my balances to 0 before the end of the month, but this time I carried over around 157, which is not a lot, since I usually run up that amount with my weekend purchases and then pay them off during the week.

 

Is this the wrong strategy to do? Should I focus more on paying off my student loans? Should I carry a balance on another credit card?

 

Thank you for any help. 

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DollyLama
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Re: Randomly Dropped 15 Points


Was the $157 balance you let hit greater than 9% of the total CL for this card?

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Anonymous
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Re: Randomly Dropped 15 Points

No, on this particular card, Discover, I have a $7,000 limit.

 

The lowest limit I have is $1,000 on a Bank of America card. This would be 16% of that, but that's the bank account where I have the most of my savings in. 

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DollyLama
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Re: Randomly Dropped 15 Points

Was this across all 3 bureau scores, or just one in particular?  I know that when I paid off 1 CC last month, I got a good 12-14 pt boost across EQ and EX, TU however did report it, but only stated XXX amount of dollars decreased the total of all tradelines, with a measly 4 pt boost. 

 

Ideally around the forums, you should have all CCs show a zero balance each month, with only 1 CC reporting a balance of less than 9% of it's CL. It's possible and I've seen some report where an account was viewed "stagnant" with zero balances, have a small charge like yours, cause a decrease for a month's reporting due to increase balance in trade lines. But to me that should bounce back after the 2nd month. 

 

Other factors to possibly consider

No new inquiries on your reports

Opening a new CC (short possible decrease until the account ages) if will affect the AAoA if your credit overall is fairly new within last couple of years.

 

 

 

So many factors.... I would retain your student loan as it appears to be your only installment, and that is needed to have a good credit mix (going on revolving credit alone can hurt). It may help paying it down, as the utilization with extra being applied will decrease the utilization of the starting balance and current balance. 

 

Try as the student loan that was once in default ages, to get a GW letter to remove the reported deliquencies. 

 

How often do you check your reports for accurancy? are you taking advantage of the free 3 reports yearly?

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NRB525
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Re: Randomly Dropped 15 Points

How many cards report a balance on the statement? At this moment, from the last statement on each card, which of them actually shows a balance?

 

Was the $157 coming from zero on the account earlier? Were any other cards reporting balances at the time?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: Randomly Dropped 15 Points

A couple of questions here.  You say you have 6 credit cards but only use 1 of them.  Why don't you use the other 5?  Where are you getting the credit scores from that you referenced?

 

For ideal scoring, you want 5 of your 6 cards to report $0 balances and the final card to report a small balance every month.  $5-$10 is sufficient for this.  If you follow this technique you'll maximize your scoring with respect to the utilization piece of the pie.

 

When someone goes from following this technique to allowing ALL cards to report $0 balances, they see a score drop.  On my profile it is 14-22 points depending on the bureau.  It could be slightly lower or higher for others.  You lost 15 points, which falls in that range and makes me think that all of your cards reported zero balances at the same time.  If this is the case, you'll get your points back as soon as one of your cards reports a balance again. 

 

Of course, this is under FICO scoring.  If the scores you provided originally were not FICO scores and a different model such as VS 3.0 there could be something else going on.

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Anonymous
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Re: Randomly Dropped 15 Points

Hi BBS,

 

The first one I signed up for was Bank of America through the bank. Considering I don't have a mortgage or car payments, the $1,000 limit was fine for me. That was a few years ago. Since then I've signed up for other cards when they offered a $150 bonus or more.

 

In hindsight, potentially creating credit score problems down the lines to get $150 isn't the sharpest move, but at the time that money was a lot to me.

 

Four of the cards haven't been used in a long time though. Discover is the only one I currently use, although up until 2 months ago I was also using Chase. That has a $0 balance like the others.

 

This is the FICO score, which is offered by Discover for free. Is there a way to check your other two scores for free?

 

Thank you for your help. I will try to get this balance to that $10 range you discussed if I plan on keeping the others at 0 at the end of the month.  

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Anonymous
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Re: Randomly Dropped 15 Points

Hi NRB,

 

Four of the cards haven't been used in awhile. I was previously using Chase before I switched over to Discover. I think there was only a two week period where both had a balance, prior it was Chase and now it is Discover. 

 

But to answer your question this is the second month I have been using Discover so it is not directly coming off a 0 balance. Last month I went up from 712 to 719 once I started using this card. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Randomly Dropped 15 Points


@Anonymous wrote:

 

This is the FICO score, which is offered by Discover for free. Is there a way to check your other two scores for free?

 

 


Two no, but one yes:  Go to creditscorecard.com and you'll get a free EX FICO 08 score every month from Discover.

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Anonymous
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Re: Randomly Dropped 15 Points

New score came in and I'm up to 721!

Thank you for your advice, it looks like it worked.

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