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Zoostation1
Valued Contributor

Resilience Index Removal

Just logged in today and saw that they're removing the resilience index score from the premier package (I have no clue on the reasoning). I've been betweeen 51 and 62 since starting a myFICO subscription and at 59 since opening my last card 6 months ago.  Always the same reason codes that are kinda tied together for me- "high percedntage of revolving accounts" (they're all I have) and "no installment loan activity".

Rebuild Started Nov 2021
June 2022 FICO 8:
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Resilience Index Removal

I think mine has been at 57 the whole time and never moved. My "red flags" have always been "high revolving balances" (which makes sense) and "high percentage of revolving accounts" (which makes no sense at all to me, since having a bunch of unpaid installment loans does not make one more resilient).


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 699 TU 696 EX 673




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Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: Resilience Index Removal

My Resiliance Scored bottomed at 34 right after my Chapter 13 fell off my reports back in 2022, since then I've opened three credit cards and took out a loan on a new vehicle; the score is currently standing at 47.  If it is being done away with I'll never find out if I can get back to 34.  Smiley Tongue

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Resilience Index Removal

A useless score to be sure.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Jeffster1
Valued Contributor

Re: Resilience Index Removal

I never really understood the Resilience Index myself.

 

I've been anywhere from 52 down to 32. I'm at 44 now. 

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Junejer
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Resilience Index Removal


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

A useless score to be sure.


Agreed! They are making a lot of assumptions without knowing one's income, investments, what's in savings, etc.







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Current Score: 819
Goal Score: 850
Highest Scores: EQ 850 EX 849 TU 850
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Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: Resilience Index Removal


@Junejer wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

A useless score to be sure.


Agreed! They are making a lot of assumptions without knowing one's income, investments, what's in savings, etc.


Savings is something which is never taken into account for any credit scoring.  Why?  I can think of a few reasons, but have no factual basis to back them up, so I'll shut up now.  Smiley Happy

Chapter 13:

  • Burned: AMEX, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo, and South County Bank (now Bank of Southern California)
  • Filed: 26-Feb-2015
  • MoC: 01-Mar-2015
  • 1st Payment (posted): 23-Mar-2015
  • Last Payment (posted): 07-Feb-2020
  • Discharged: 04-Mar-2020
  • Closed: 23-Jun-2020

 

I categorically refuse to do AZEO!

In the proverbial sock drawer:
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markbeiser
Established Contributor

Re: Resilience Index Removal


@Horseshoez wrote:

@Junejer wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

A useless score to be sure.


Agreed! They are making a lot of assumptions without knowing one's income, investments, what's in savings, etc.


Savings is something which is never taken into account for any credit scoring.  Why?  I can think of a few reasons, but have no factual basis to back them up, so I'll shut up now.  Smiley Happy


Not that I disagree, but investments and savings makes a HUGE difference in how resilient a person is to an economic downturn.
There really isn't a way for them to track that sort of thing automatically, thus the reason the score is useless.
Someone with a low/median income, living paycheck to paycheck, but with little to no non mortgage debt, and a low mortgage balance, could have a low resilience index score, but be EXTREMELY vulnerable to financial ruin if the economy turns bad.

Back to gardening until Late February 2026.
Current FICO8:
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Junejer
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Resilience Index Removal


@markbeiser wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@Junejer wrote:

@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

A useless score to be sure.


Agreed! They are making a lot of assumptions without knowing one's income, investments, what's in savings, etc.


Savings is something which is never taken into account for any credit scoring.  Why?  I can think of a few reasons, but have no factual basis to back them up, so I'll shut up now.  Smiley Happy


Not that I disagree, but investments and savings makes a HUGE difference in how resilient a person is to an economic downturn.
There really isn't a way for them to track that sort of thing automatically, thus the reason the score is useless.
Someone with a low/median income, living paycheck to paycheck, but with little to no non mortgage debt, and a low mortgage balance, could have a low resilience index score, but be EXTREMELY vulnerable to financial ruin if the economy turns bad.


Bingo!! Good riddance to the "score".







Starting Score: 469
Current Score: 819
Goal Score: 850
Highest Scores: EQ 850 EX 849 TU 850
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