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01mommy
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Score changes with settled accounts?

I have a settlement agreement on an account that's never been late, no collection activity, and is reporting paid as agreed since being opened in July 2011. The rep told me once it's paid off, it'll report as settled with a zero balance...could this be considered an adverse action and lead to a score drop? Also, my simulator projects a 70-90pt minimum increase in my score if I lowered my CC balance over the next 24months...but I was able to do it in one month...does that mean I could see that much of an increase by the next reporting?

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AndySoCal
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Re: Score changes with settled accounts?

A stteled account is considered a major derogatory. A settled account  in your will be a big negative on your score. Here is a link. to an article on the subject

 

http://credit.about.com/od/creditscorefaq/f/debt-settlement-affect-credit-score.htm

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MarineVietVet
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Re: Score changes with settled accounts?


@AndySoCal wrote:

A stteled account is considered a major derogatory. A settled account  in your will be a big negative on your score. Here is a link. to an article on the subject

 

http://credit.about.com/od/creditscorefaq/f/debt-settlement-affect-credit-score.htm


I agree. Any notation of "settled" is scored the same as a charge off.

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01mommy
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Re: Score changes with settled accounts?

That's not good because it's actually a satisfactory account now. I never asked for a PFD because I didn't even know about it...they only agreed to settle because the debt is illegal in my state and they have no recourse otherwise. I'm actually paying 100% of what they loaned me, just none of the outrageous interest...do you think it's too late to press for a PFD now? They did send me our agreement in writing, but I still have 2 more payments...should I say something now, or wait until I'm done paying?

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pizzadude
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Re: Score changes with settled accounts?

Does the agreement actually say that it will be reported as "settled" or "paid as agreed" ?      If they are going to note the account as being settled then I would start talking with them about either agreeing to have it show paid as agreed or to just delete the account.

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RobertEG
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Re: Score changes with settled accounts?

The OP stated that the account has never been delinquent, and for whatever reason, the creditor has agreed to settle the account for whatever balance is remaining.

It was not even stated that the account was or will be closed.

 

Under those conditions, the account, if still open, would not have a current status of "Paid."  That current status only relates to closed accounts.  The current status would be current.  If the account was closed with no delinquencies, it would be marked as Paid, closed, $0 balance.

 

Special comments pertaining to a settlement are only proper and reported on closed accounts with delinquent debt that has now been satisfied. 

The current status on closed accounts with a satisfied, previously delinquenct debt must read "Paid" regardless of whether it was paid in full or settled for less.  Recordation of settled for less than the full amount are made by way of a separate special comment code.

 

In the situation at issue, no special comment of paid for less would be appropriate.  It is actually simply an adjustment of account balance by the creditor.

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JVnyc
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Re: Score changes with settled accounts?

Has anyone ever heard or someone paying off a settled account after the fact?  For example, you have a $5,000 CC balance, and settle with the issuer for $2,500 - on your credit report it shows up as "Settled - less than full balance".  If 2 years later you offer to pay the balance that was settled would the issuer be willing to do this so it can be fixed on your credit report?  Is this a pipe dream?

 

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01mommy
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Re: Score changes with settled accounts?


@RobertEG wrote:

The OP stated that the account has never been delinquent, and for whatever reason, the creditor has agreed to settle the account for whatever balance is remaining.

It was not even stated that the account was or will be closed.

 

Under those conditions, the account, if still open, would not have a current status of "Paid."  That current status only relates to closed accounts.  The current status would be current.  If the account was closed with no delinquencies, it would be marked as Paid, closed, $0 balance.

 

Special comments pertaining to a settlement are only proper and reported on closed accounts with delinquent debt that has now been satisfied. 

The current status on closed accounts with a satisfied, previously delinquenct debt must read "Paid" regardless of whether it was paid in full or settled for less.  Recordation of settled for less than the full amount are made by way of a separate special comment code.

 

In the situation at issue, no special comment of paid for less would be appropriate.  It is actually simply an adjustment of account balance by the creditor.


This makes much more sense...especially since there haven't been any issues with the account.  However, it is a personal installment loan from Western Sky "serviced" by CashCall and I've seen some rumblings about these types of loans being less than desireable score-wise...is it beneficial to seek deletion for that reason alone, or does the benefit of having a 100% positive TL for less than a year outweigh any percieved risk or point-loss on my end?


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01mommy
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Re: Score changes with settled accounts?


@01mommy wrote:

@RobertEG wrote:

The OP stated that the account has never been delinquent, and for whatever reason, the creditor has agreed to settle the account for whatever balance is remaining.

It was not even stated that the account was or will be closed.

 

Under those conditions, the account, if still open, would not have a current status of "Paid."  That current status only relates to closed accounts.  The current status would be current.  If the account was closed with no delinquencies, it would be marked as Paid, closed, $0 balance.

 

Special comments pertaining to a settlement are only proper and reported on closed accounts with delinquent debt that has now been satisfied. 

The current status on closed accounts with a satisfied, previously delinquenct debt must read "Paid" regardless of whether it was paid in full or settled for less.  Recordation of settled for less than the full amount are made by way of a separate special comment code.

 

In the situation at issue, no special comment of paid for less would be appropriate.  It is actually simply an adjustment of account balance by the creditor.


This makes much more sense...especially since there haven't been any issues with the account.  However, it is a personal installment loan from Western Sky "serviced" by CashCall and I've seen some rumblings about these types of loans being less than desireable score-wise...is it beneficial to seek deletion for that reason alone, or does the benefit of having a 100% positive TL for less than a year outweigh any percieved risk or point-loss on my end?


Just checked the TL again...

 

Status: Open/Never late

Credit Limit/Original Amount: 2600

 

They're not including interest in the reporting amount...so technically, I'm NOT settling report-wise because I'm paying them full $2600.  The interest is only reflected in the recent balance however 


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RobertEG
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Re: Score changes with settled accounts?

"Paying off" an account that was previously "settled" is contradictory.

 

Settled means satisfied, regardless of the amount accepted as settlement of the debt.  A satisfied debt is a debt in the past tense.

It would be more than questionable for a creditor to accept $$ when no debt is owed, particularly if it involves CR deletion.

What would it smell like if a creditor were to initiate such an offer?

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