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mattmyFIC0
Established Contributor

Score drop with 0% UTI

So this is just an interesting data point I noticed...

 

Normally I let at least 1-3 card(s) report a small balance. This seems to keep my FICO 8 in the same spot or increase over time. My overall UTI is always 1%. 

 

This morning when I checked CCT my EX score lost 8 points and I noticed that my UTI is showing as 0%. What happened is that currently only my installment account is reporting a balance and also my les schwab account is reporting a balance. This is interesting because I didn't realize that my les schwab account wouldn't count as part of my UTI. It is a retail account not a regular cc.

 

I'll let a regular cc report a balance soon and report back on score change. FICO scores are interesting to mess with Smiley Happy

Scores 01/04/2017: EQ 719, TU 750, EX 716
Goal scores: 740 across the board
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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Score drop with 0% UTI

Many posters state experiencing a 15 point to 30 point score drop when no revolving credit cards report a balance. Not sure what's going on in your case.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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JLK93
Established Contributor

Re: Score drop with 0% UTI


@mattmyFIC0 wrote:

So this is just an interesting data point I noticed...

 

Normally I let at least 1-3 card(s) report a small balance. This seems to keep my FICO 8 in the same spot or increase over time. My overall UTI is always 1%. 

 

This morning when I checked CCT my EX score lost 8 points and I noticed that my UTI is showing as 0%. What happened is that currently only my installment account is reporting a balance and also my les schwab account is reporting a balance. This is interesting because I didn't realize that my les schwab account wouldn't count as part of my UTI. It is a retail account not a regular cc.

 

I'll let a regular cc report a balance soon and report back on score change. FICO scores are interesting to mess with Smiley Happy


Your Schwab credit card balance should count as part of your utilization. According to my understanding, it is a credit card not a charge card. I'm not really familiar with the card.

 

If your have a low overall utilization CCT will show Revolving Credit Usage as 0%. Some other credit monitoring sites do the same. Normal stuff.

 

Something else probably caused your 8 point drop.

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Anonymous
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Re: Score drop with 0% UTI

That's why I don't like to have a zero balance report...as odd as it might sound in the credit world lol

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mattmyFIC0
Established Contributor

Re: Score drop with 0% UTI


@oilcan12 wrote:

@mattmyFIC0 wrote:

So this is just an interesting data point I noticed...

 

Normally I let at least 1-3 card(s) report a small balance. This seems to keep my FICO 8 in the same spot or increase over time. My overall UTI is always 1%. 

 

This morning when I checked CCT my EX score lost 8 points and I noticed that my UTI is showing as 0%. What happened is that currently only my installment account is reporting a balance and also my les schwab account is reporting a balance. This is interesting because I didn't realize that my les schwab account wouldn't count as part of my UTI. It is a retail account not a regular cc.

 

I'll let a regular cc report a balance soon and report back on score change. FICO scores are interesting to mess with Smiley Happy


Your Schwab credit card balance should count as part of your utilization. According to my understanding, it is a credit card not a charge card. I'm not really familiar with the card.

 

If your have a low overall utilization CCT will show Revolving Credit Usage as 0%. Some other credit monitoring sites do the same. Normal stuff.

 

Something else probably caused your 8 point drop.


Thank you guys for your input! The les schwab card is not the same as the Schwab credit card. Les Schwab is a chain of tire stores. They are mostly on the west coast as far as I know.

 

Since you mentioned that CCT might just be showing 0% because usage is so low I'm wondering if I pulled a report off myFICO it would show 0% or not. Usually for me CCT scores are spot on with myFICO scores.

 

Nothing else has changed for the drop that I can see. I'll wait a bit and let a card with a bigger limit report a balance and see what happens. It's interesting to me how the scoring works. No stress about it but I am very curious about the drop.

Scores 01/04/2017: EQ 719, TU 750, EX 716
Goal scores: 740 across the board
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JLK93
Established Contributor

Re: Score drop with 0% UTI


@mattmyFIC0 wrote:

@oilcan12 wrote:

@mattmyFIC0 wrote:

So this is just an interesting data point I noticed...

 

Normally I let at least 1-3 card(s) report a small balance. This seems to keep my FICO 8 in the same spot or increase over time. My overall UTI is always 1%. 

 

This morning when I checked CCT my EX score lost 8 points and I noticed that my UTI is showing as 0%. What happened is that currently only my installment account is reporting a balance and also my les schwab account is reporting a balance. This is interesting because I didn't realize that my les schwab account wouldn't count as part of my UTI. It is a retail account not a regular cc.

 

I'll let a regular cc report a balance soon and report back on score change. FICO scores are interesting to mess with Smiley Happy


Your Schwab credit card balance should count as part of your utilization. According to my understanding, it is a credit card not a charge card. I'm not really familiar with the card.

 

If your have a low overall utilization CCT will show Revolving Credit Usage as 0%. Some other credit monitoring sites do the same. Normal stuff.

 

Something else probably caused your 8 point drop.


Thank you guys for your input! The les schwab card is not the same as the Schwab credit card. Les Schwab is a chain of tire stores. They are mostly on the west coast as far as I know.

 

Since you mentioned that CCT might just be showing 0% because usage is so low I'm wondering if I pulled a report off myFICO it would show 0% or not. Usually for me CCT scores are spot on with myFICO scores.

 

Nothing else has changed for the drop that I can see. I'll wait a bit and let a card with a bigger limit report a balance and see what happens. It's interesting to me how the scoring works. No stress about it but I am very curious about the drop.


Your score on Myfico will be the same as your CCT score. Your Myfico report won't show 0% utilization unless it really is 0%.

 

I wasn't familiar with Les Schwab. A credit report should show if it is a revolving account.

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mattmyFIC0
Established Contributor

Re: Score drop with 0% UTI

Les Schwab shows as revolving/retail card.

 

Today my score went back up when I let a regular credit card report a small balance. So I originally lost 8 points when no cards showed a balance except the retail card but gained 10 when the regular credit card reported a balance.

Scores 01/04/2017: EQ 719, TU 750, EX 716
Goal scores: 740 across the board
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jamie123
Valued Contributor

Re: Score drop with 0% UTI

I lose 18 points if I allow all my cards to report zero vs 1 card reporting a small balance. I've tested this several times and by having 1 card report a balance of only $3 I have gained back the 18 points.


Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
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