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Anonymous
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Score dropped 30 points

My Experian fico score dropped by 30+
for paying off a 200 dollar balance? What's up with that, what the crap is that? I have 800+ scores across all three and now that one is down below 800. 😡 

 

any insight on this please?

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tooleman694
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Re: Score dropped 30 points

Do you know the date it dropped?

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Anonymous
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Re: Score dropped 30 points

Yes it was today I received an alert  

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Anonymous
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Re: Score dropped 30 points

Yikes now others are reporting similar changes. This fico model we use is such a scam, literally paying off a balance is considered a negative. It impacted my Fico scores by an average of -30 points across the board. I also noticed ally financial didn't report any auto loan payments fof the last 6 months then my balance decreased to 0 because it was paid in full with my payment last month. No congrations in order, lets penalize him. Unbelievable. Like what in the world is this system based off that I'm considered riskier for being responsible and paying my bills on time and finishing an auto contract! 

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Anonymous
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Re: Score dropped 30 points


@Anonymous wrote:

My Experian fico score dropped by 30+
for paying off a 200 dollar balance? What's up with that, what the crap is that? I have 800+ scores across all three and now that one is down below 800. 😡 

 

any insight on this please?


Do you have a reported balance on at least one other major credit card, or did paying off this card to $0 result in all $0 balances reported on all of your revolving accounts?

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Remedios
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Re: Score dropped 30 points

@Anonymous  they did mention paying off auto loan. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Score dropped 30 points

Yup, could be that as well if OP has no other open loans.

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lyTENciL
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Re: Score dropped 30 points

@Anonymous 
You get a penalty if all cards report zero balance. You also get a penalty if you have no installment loan reporting (auto, mortgage, personal etc). 

The reason for this is that the score is based on statistical modeling that compares your lending risk with everyone who matches those same inputs. For some variables it's a snapshot that does not account for history. If you have no balances reporting, to the model, you look the same as someone who never uses their cards. Despite the fact that someone who has responsibily used their credit and paid down to zero might be less risky than someone who has not used their cards, the model assigns same risk level for that parameter. It makes the math simpler to do it that way. The improvements in later models are meant to address these types of flaws. But apparently the version 8 is considered a good enough predictor by lenders, despite those drawbacks, because uptake of later models has lagged.

 

I sympathize with your frustration. I felt the same when I found out you fare better with bad credit than no credit.


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Anonymous
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Re: Score dropped 30 points


@Anonymous wrote:

Yikes now others are reporting similar changes. This fico model we use is such a scam, literally paying off a balance is considered a negative. It impacted my Fico scores by an average of -30 points across the board. I also noticed ally financial didn't report any auto loan payments fof the last 6 months then my balance decreased to 0 because it was paid in full with my payment last month. No congrations in order, lets penalize him. Unbelievable. Like what in the world is this system based off that I'm considered riskier for being responsible and paying my bills on time and finishing an auto contract! 


Not sure but I think the variety of debt you carry (cc's, mortgage, auto, personal)  may carry some weight, but I agree, it's a scam

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Anonymous
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Re: Score dropped 30 points

If you consider that banks etc. make their money only when you are paying interest on debt then of course they're pissed you're done.

It's people paying interest -- on cc balances, loans, etc. -- that provide the banks' income. The 1% are provided for by the 99%.

 

I have an auto and a personal loan finishing up in the next few months.  My guess is i'll take a hit on my scores.


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