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This doesnt make sense at all -- Equifax drops 20

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: This doesnt make sense at all -- Equifax drops 20


@Anonymous wrote:
I'm thinking I may be better off canceling the monitoring and just ordering a 3B report every 3 months. I think therein lies the problem -- it's really tough to monitor your FICO score on a daily basis and gain meaningful results of your actions. Probably better off looking at the results over a longer period of time instead of the almost daily basis

Agreed 100% on that.  Short of my geeky hobby testing the algorithm, fact is I'd probably just order my 3B report every Jan 1st and call it good and then whenever I was getting ready for a major application... I know my file intimately at this point, and CK is enough for me to keep tabs on it FWIW.




        
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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: This doesnt make sense at all -- Equifax drops 20


@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
I'm thinking I may be better off canceling the monitoring and just ordering a 3B report every 3 months. I think therein lies the problem -- it's really tough to monitor your FICO score on a daily basis and gain meaningful results of your actions. Probably better off looking at the results over a longer period of time instead of the almost daily basis

Agreed 100% on that.  Short of my geeky hobby testing the algorithm, fact is I'd probably just order my 3B report every Jan 1st and call it good and then whenever I was getting ready for a major application... I know my file intimately at this point, and CK is enough for me to keep tabs on it FWIW.


While no one can answer the questions of why each daily score change occurs, that becomes more a matter of the individual just accepting that the score will change day to day, and watching the trends through the month. I'm not going to stop watching the score changes for a while yet, because while I can't pinpoint why each change happens, I know the general trend I'm expecting to see, and reviewing to see what might have led to a change.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: This doesnt make sense at all -- Equifax drops 20

As expected, Experian updated today with that info and dumped it -16 down to 698... Oh well -- it will be interesting to see how quickly it rises back up along with the revolving utilization dropping over the next several months.

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Anonymous
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Re: This doesnt make sense at all -- Equifax drops 20


@Anonymous wrote:
I'm thinking I may be better off canceling the monitoring and just ordering a 3B report every 3 months. I think therein lies the problem -- it's really tough to monitor your FICO score on a daily basis and gain meaningful results of your actions. Probably better off looking at the results over a longer period of time instead of the almost daily basis

Me too. I was going to cancel before they renewed this month because I don't want to see the plummeting numbers from: paid off one car loan and two other installment loans, got new car lease, refi'd mortgage, and two new CC's. It renewed, but I need to cancel it before 8/7 for sure. 

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Anonymous
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Re: This doesnt make sense at all -- Equifax drops 20


@Anonymous wrote:

As expected, Experian updated today with that info and dumped it -16 down to 698... Oh well -- it will be interesting to see how quickly it rises back up along with the revolving utilization dropping over the next several months.


 

 

And finally, today the trifecta completed -- with TransUnion updating and dropping my score 21 points  Smiley Sad

 

"725 -> 704 (-21) The total balance on all your Personal Finance account(s) has changed.  Balance:  $0"

 

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CreditMagic7
Mega Contributor

Re: This doesnt make sense at all -- Equifax drops 20


@Anonymous wrote:
Nope it's because of the paid off account.

There's nothing whatsoever (short of opening a new one again) Smiley Frustrated that will keep FICO from penalizing with many points a paid off Loan/Auto Loan. I know it's downright rediculous to most of us but that's just another formula that fuels or drains our FICO numbers.

I'm in the process myself of manipulating my current accounts in anticipation of a fall because hell be damned i am going to pay off my auto loan regardless of this FICO nonsense. We can only make an effort to minimize the damage not prevent such a drastic interruption to our good numbers just because we are being responsible with credit. Bahhh FICO, you need a new system overhaul.

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Anonymous
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Re: This doesnt make sense at all -- Equifax drops 20

Lol agreed! It's ridiculous!
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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: This doesnt make sense at all -- Equifax drops 20


@CreditMagic7 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
Nope it's because of the paid off account.

There's nothing whatsoever (short of opening a new one again) Smiley Frustrated that will keep FICO from penalizing with many points a paid off Loan/Auto Loan. I know it's downright rediculous to most of us but that's just another formula that fuels or drains our FICO numbers.

I'm in the process myself of manipulating my current accounts in anticipation of a fall because hell be damned i am going to pay off my auto loan regardless of this FICO nonsense. We can only make an effort to minimize the damage not prevent such a drastic interruption to our good numbers just because we are being responsible with credit. Bahhh FICO, you need a new system overhaul.


As we've found recently it's stupidly easy to manipulate if you have no other open installment loans.  Why complain, just fix it.

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Installment-tradeline-utilization-thread/m-p/4055989




        
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