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Thresholds for fico’s rating system

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Cblough93
Frequent Contributor

Thresholds for fico’s rating system

Hey guys,

 

i wanted to start a thread for some of the know thresholds for ficos rating system (poor, fair, good, very good, exceptional)

 

as you know each section gets a rating, and while these ratings may seem silly, these ratings greatly impact your score. Whether the affect is directly because of the rating or indirectly I don't know, but I know it has an impact. To give you an idea I have also added  my score changes associated with the ratings changes, keep in mind these score changes are specific to my profile. 

 

here are some of the thresholds I have learned recently, feel free to add your own experiences 

 

payment history-

 

was at good rating- 1 late payment and 50% of accounts paid as agreed

 

was improved to very good rating when my accounts paid as agreed went from 50% to 75%. Resulted in about 15/20 point increase across the board. 

amount of new credit:

 

Was at fair rating- 2 new accounts in the past year, with newest account under 3 months of age

 

Improved to good rating once newest account hit 3 months, resulting in increase of about 10 points across all 3 cra's 

 

amount of debt:

 

Was at very good rating- 4% aggregate utilization ratio, 1/1 accounts with balances 

 

improved to exceptional rating once I added 2 additional accounts and made sure I did AZEO, making totals 1/3 accounts with balances and 1% aggregate utilization ratio. Resulted in about 15/20 point gain 

 

credit age:

 

good rating- age of oldest account over 7 years, average age of accounts over 4 years

 

decreased to fair rating once I dropped to 2 years 7 months average age of accounts. So 3 or 4 years average age seems to be the thresholds to go from fair to good. Fair to good change resulted in  10 point gain for me.  

credit mix

 

was at good rating with 1 open credit card and 1 closed auto loan, improved to very good after adding 2 additional credit cards. 

 


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FlaDude
Valued Contributor

Re: Thresholds for fico’s rating system

These ratings are not part of FICO scoring. They are displayed by myFICO and other portals to give you an idea how you stand in each of those categories and are based on whatever criteria each portal uses.

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Kforce
Valued Contributor

Re: Thresholds for fico’s rating system

Like trying to put 10-scale numbers on terms, what is "nice",  "hot" ,  "interesting".

7, 9, 8 or  6, 10, 7.    Smiley LOL

 

 

 

 

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Cblough93
Frequent Contributor

Re: Thresholds for fico’s rating system

@Kforce @FlaDude 

 

Yes agreed.  The score increases were because of the data that caused the rating to change not because of the rating change itself. Example- the fact that my youngest account hit 3 months was the reason for the score change, but this also happened to be a threshold to change your "amount of new credit" from fair to good. Or when my newest accounts got enough age behind them, they became "accounts paid as agreed", improving my payment history from good to very good.

 

So, now people know that when their newest account hits 3 months, they can expect a score increase, and they now know that it's because their amount of new credit improved. They no longer have to guess as to why the score improvement occurred. 

 

like I said, the ratings themselves maybe not be "directly affecting the score" but they are certainly indirectly affecting the scores and there is absolutely a correlation between your rating and your score.  

 

When my ratings went up so did my score, again, not directly because of the ratings, but that was not the point of this, the point was to try to pinpoint known thresholds in which your ratings change, to try to give people an idea as to when their score may increase and by how much. 

because again, there is a correlation. That's all I was trying to point out. 


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Wandering
New Visitor

Re: Thresholds for fico’s rating system

The eye-candy fluff "rating system" has absolutely no bearing on your fico scores, metrics, or anything. Not directly and not indirectly. It is a simple attempt to give simple people an idea of where their metrics stand and there is absolutely no way that any amount of score points could be assigned to the "fluffy feel good" system.

 

It is on par with a "smiley face rating system"

 

And since you ignore what everyone tells you and you will try yet again to back up your incorrect understanding of anything, I would like you to spend some time googling for answers to this question of yours. You will find nothing about it, and that is because (reread this reply from the beginning.)

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Thresholds for fico’s rating system


@Wandering wrote:

The eye-candy fluff "rating system" has absolutely no bearing on your fico scores, metrics, or anything. Not directly and not indirectly. It is a simple attempt to give simple people an idea of where their metrics stand and there is absolutely no way that any amount of score points could be assigned to the "fluffy feel good" system.

 

It is on par with a "smiley face rating system"

 

And since you ignore what everyone tells you and you will try yet again to back up your incorrect understanding of anything, I would like you to spend some time googling for answers to this question of yours. You will find nothing about it, and that is because (reread this reply from the beginning.)


+1

Agreed


Total revolving limits 586020 (520820 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 710 TU 711 EX 715




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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Thresholds for fico’s rating system


@FlaDude wrote:

These ratings are not part of FICO scoring. They are displayed by myFICO and other portals to give you an idea how you stand in each of those categories and are based on whatever criteria each portal uses.


+1

Agreed


Total revolving limits 586020 (520820 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 710 TU 711 EX 715




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