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Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.

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iced
Valued Contributor

Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.

I just pulled a report for Experian today (they feel like the harshest critic to me), and noticed one of my negative score factors was too few accounts paid as agreed. I have read posts about people running into this before, but they also usually had a short credit history and/or very few accounts. In my case, I have 7 open accounts (1 real estate/2 installment/1 store/3 credit) with an AAoA of over 7 years, according to Experian. My newest account is about 3 years old.

 

The only change from last month is I closed one of my cards out, so I went from 8 to 7. This is concerning since I’m planning on closing another card out in a few months. I also understood the recommended number for high scores was 6 accounts.

 

If 6 is good enough for perfect, why is 7 a factor dragging me down?

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.


@iced wrote:

I just pulled a report for Experian today (they feel like the harshest critic to me), and noticed one of my negative score factors was too few accounts paid as agreed. I have read posts about people running into this before, but they also usually had a short credit history and/or very few accounts. In my case, I have 7 open accounts (1 real estate/2 installment/1 store/3 credit) with an AAoA of over 7 years, according to Experian. My newest account is about 3 years old.

 

The only change from last month is I closed one of my cards out, so I went from 8 to 7. This is concerning since I’m planning on closing another card out in a few months. I also understood the recommended number for high scores was 6 accounts.

 

If 6 is good enough for perfect, why is 7 a factor dragging me down?


I think you're just fine. I don't really believe it's pulling you down. They just have to throw in something.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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elim
Senior Contributor

Re: Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.

I get that notation with 23 accounts.  Lord only knows what they are doing over at EX.

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mitchblue
Valued Contributor

Re: Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.

When I looked at my CR sometime I go, I think they look at 7 as poor. 23+ is what they see as really good. Not sure why..

FICO® 8 Scores 821 FICO® 9 Equifax 826 (Updated 02-7-23)
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mitchblue
Valued Contributor

Re: Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.

Credit Karma shows me this..

 

 

  • 21+ Excellent
  • 11-20 Good
  • 6-10 Poor
  • 0-5 Very Poor

 

FICO® 8 Scores 821 FICO® 9 Equifax 826 (Updated 02-7-23)
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elim
Senior Contributor

Re: Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.


@mitchblue wrote:

Credit Karma shows me this..

 

 

  • 21+ Excellent
  • 11-20 Good
  • 6-10 Poor
  • 0-5 Very Poor

 


   This is the data I use when recon'ing a denial for too many new accounts...  "Credit Karma says 21 is excellent, Trying to get there fast, lol"

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.


@iced wrote:

I just pulled a report for Experian today (they feel like the harshest critic to me), and noticed one of my negative score factors was too few accounts paid as agreed. I have read posts about people running into this before, but they also usually had a short credit history and/or very few accounts. In my case, I have 7 open accounts (1 real estate/2 installment/1 store/3 credit) with an AAoA of over 7 years, according to Experian. My newest account is about 3 years old.

 

The only change from last month is I closed one of my cards out, so I went from 8 to 7. This is concerning since I’m planning on closing another card out in a few months. I also understood the recommended number for high scores was 6 accounts.

 

If 6 is good enough for perfect, why is 7 a factor dragging me down?


It is unlikely that the "too few accounts paid as agreed" is really having a significant negative impact on your score. Below is a paste of the reason statement and associated info taken directly from an Experian document.

 

Too few accounts.jpg

 

Note: I have 1 open loan (mortgage), 1 charge card, 1 AU credit card and 4 revolving credit cards. The AU card counts for nothing in Fico 08 for me. So I effectively have 6 open accounts - all of which all show activity. If you have either AU accounts or open accounts that are considered "inactive" that could put you in the "too few" category. Check your credit report details for each open account under "status". Perhaps some accounts are not reporting payment status.

 

Overall, it is best to have at least 3 open revolving credit cards that are not AU status. Maintaining 4 or 5 open is better as that adds some flexibility. "Perfect" Fico scores can be achieved with 20 or more open accounts so no NEED reduce to 6 total from 7. Dropping another account won't improve score potential.

 

I would not say 6 total open accounts is "optimum" for high scores - although it is sufficient for 850 scores (as long as there is an open installment loan).

 

Note: You will receive at least 2 reason statements (often four statements) on factors that may be impacting score until score is above 800. The reason statements come from an automated system and the top two listed usually have some validity although impact may be minor.

 

As mentioned before, having 3 or more, non AU, open revolving accounts is very helpful in achieving high scores (above 800). Best to also have an open installment loan that is "substantially paid down"  for top tier scores (above 820).

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Imhotrodcrazy
Valued Contributor

Re: Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.

I only  have 7 open accounts and my scores are well above 800.  I have 1 mortgage 5 cc's  and 1 loc.  This number works extremely well for me.

FICO 08
TU 842 12/8/18
EX 840 12/29/18
EQ 842 12/8/18
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Anonymous
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Re: Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.

My Mother literally has only 2 accounts. An old Sears charge with a $9.00 a month balance and a credit card from the Credit Union with a few hundred dollars charged on it. (house has been payed off for years, paid cash for her new car, pays cash for everything). Her scores are 793 TU and 813 EQ. So... I really don't think lack of accounts is hurting her one bit.

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: Too few accounts? Experian seems to think so.


@Anonymous wrote:

My Mother literally has only 2 accounts. An old Sears charge with a $9.00 a month balance and a credit card from the Credit Union with a few hundred dollars charged on it. (house has been payed off for years, paid cash for her new car, pays cash for everything). Her scores are 793 TU and 813 EQ. So... I really don't think lack of accounts is hurting her one bit.


The lack of accounts is actually impacting score potential but, her score is more than sufficient for the best lending rates (lowest risk).

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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