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UPDATE - 100pt Mortgage Score Increase!!

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Anonymous
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?

Thanks Medic!

 

I do have a question. My Experian is now showing that I have no open installment loans because the student loans have been paid and closed through the consolidation. Currently showing that my only open accounts are 3 revolvers from the credit cards. 

 

I'm expecting that when the consolidated student loans from FedLoan reports (don't know when), I'll take a hit because of all the debt being added back on. BUT, will the positive of having open installment accounts offset that some?

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medicgrrl
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?

It's hard to say.  I just refinanced my car and the old account showed paid and I lost points.  Then the new account updated and I lost points because it was new and the loan amount was close to 100% of high credit.  I'm hoping after a couple of payments I'll get my points back.  Everyone's profile is so different that what works for one may not necessarily work for others.  

 

If you're not in a hurry to purchase something, don't be discouraged.  As the old student loan lates age and your new balance reduces, you'll see improvements in your score.  The other thing that makes it difficult is that we have so many changes going on that it's hard to say what is affecting our scores!



EQ 778 EXP 782 TU 729
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Anonymous
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?

I am actually closing on a house in August, so I'm thinking the installment utilization may have some impact on my mortage scores. I'm hoping it won't be too much. I'm also in school right now, so payments are on a deferred status. I qualify for the IBR, which is at $155.89, so I'm still going to apply those payments so interest won't accrue too much. 

 

I'm also 14 days away from requesting early exclusion on two of my Experian collections. One is National Credit Systems, which is scheduled to removed in August 2017. Everytime I call and request the EE, the supervisor says I need to call back May 15. That collection is $4,181 so it will be great to get that off. My other EE is one of the Berks Collections, which is also scheduled to come off in August and Experian supervisor says wait until May 15. 

 

 

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medicgrrl
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?

I wish you the best!  Hopefully you'll get a few points with the upcoming changes.



EQ 778 EXP 782 TU 729
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Anonymous
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?

rookie, awesome progress! How long after your consolidation went through and showed paid in full on the fedloans site were the accounts listed as paid/closed on your credit reports? Thanks!

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Anonymous
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?

I can't remember the date I applied for the consolidation, but here's my timeline: 

 

March 2 - received email from FedLoan saying they're in receipt of my consolidation application

April 7 - consolidation processed

April 10 - funds disbursed from consolidation

April 13 - logged into Great Lakes (previous servicer) and all accounts were at $0 balance with paid notation. 

April 21- received Default Clearance Letter - now able to apply for financial aid again

April 28 - both DeVry and DOE reports to credit bureaus on this date

May 1 - updated account information reflected on Experian credit report

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Anonymous
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?


@Anonymous wrote:

I am actually closing on a house in August, so I'm thinking the installment utilization may have some impact on my mortage scores. I'm hoping it won't be too much. I'm also in school right now, so payments are on a deferred status. I qualify for the IBR, which is at $155.89, so I'm still going to apply those payments so interest won't accrue too much. 

 

I'm also 14 days away from requesting early exclusion on two of my Experian collections. One is National Credit Systems, which is scheduled to removed in August 2017. Everytime I call and request the EE, the supervisor says I need to call back May 15. That collection is $4,181 so it will be great to get that off. My other EE is one of the Berks Collections, which is also scheduled to come off in August and Experian supervisor says wait until May 15. 

 

 


 

The general issue you are raising is this.  Which causes a bigger scoring penalty.... (a) to have a 0% installment utilization (closed loans all paid off) or (b) > 95% installment utilization (open loans, very little of which are paid off)?

 

I am not sure we have a definite answer to that.  I am guessing that (a) and (b) may involve roughly the same penalty for both EX mortgage and FICO 8 (EX, TU, EQ).

 

That's the general issue.  But you rightly perceive that your very particular situation involves a lot of complicating factors.  For example the fact that the loans that will be coming on in a month are student loans in deferment.  There's a chance those are score differently from (say) an auto loan.

 

More importantly you have all kind of known confounders: like derogs coming off at the same time, CC balances being optimized, etc.

 

So in your particular case, the takeaway message is that lots of stuff will be happening to your scores, but you shouldn't expect A vs. B to be that big of a deal.  And you have lots of known good stuff happening.  So relax, keep on doing what you know to be good, and continue to track your mortgage scores.

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Anonymous
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?

Thanks CGID! What you're saying is very true. I have a lot going on with my reports right now, and I'm staying away from the simulators on myFICO because I have too many scenarios for that to be correct. 

 

Just got an alert from myFICO on my Transunion...went up 17 points. 

 

My monthly update will come on May 13th. 

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Anonymous
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?

And can you remind us.... are you using myFICO Premium as your tool to get your mortgage scores?  Premium gives you the scores every 30 days.  myFICO Ultimate is the more common product, but it gives your mortgage scores every 90 days, which is a bad fit for you given your desire to see how your mortgage scores each month as the time to go through pre-approval approaches.

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Anonymous
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Re: What kind of score increase will I get?

Yes, I switched to the Premium version last month since right now, the mortgage scores are most important to me right now. 

 

I'm not sure if it's the norm, but my mortgage scores have consistently been a couple of points higher than my FICO8 scores. 

 

Our lender said the plan is to go to underwriting 30 days before closing or 30 days after the pre-drywall meeting. We've been told that after the pre-drywall meeting, that is also the time where we are given 60 days notice that the home will be ready and an exact closing date. 

 

As of right now, if there are no delays in construction, closing is currently estimated for mid to late-August. But our lender will notify us before pulling our credit again. The lender also does rapid rescoring, so I have that on my side as well in the event I need it for credit card updating. 

 

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