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Unintended Consequences

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Remlock
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Re: Unintended Consequences

Well, 6 points for a hard pull certainly makes more sense. LOL

In my experience, for as long as I can recall, a single pull always has impacted my score by 2 points. Others, whose scores may be impacted more, could be a product of thinner histories with fewer other factors to counterweight the pull or histories whose contents have a substantially different mix of credit types.

Actually opening a new loan generally also initially would tend to have the further negative impact of a loan with a higher utilization rate plus lowering the average age of active tradelines, the extent of which will depend upon the number and duration of other active accounts.

The clear moral of the story is how wildly certain actions can vary in terms of their impact from one person to another (or even between different moments in time for the same person) which underscores the importance of knowing one’s own credit and developing a basic understanding of the “equal and opposite reactions” upon one’s credit almost every action can have.

Starting Score: Lower than it is
Current Score: Not as high as I'd like
Goal Score: Higher than it is today


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Anonymous
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Re: Unintended Consequences

We can agree on that. 

My score has flactuated 2-3 points for a few years,

and always takes a hit for each inq/new acct and then

bounces back in a few months. 

 

Our plans will be keeping our autos for as long as we can after they are paid in about a 

years time or slightly over.  This will be a first lol.

 

Then continuing in the garden and hopefully no new accts/hp for a while.

I would like to see my score stabilize with growth rather than flatline.

but it is all relevant to the noise that is chattering on the reports.

 

A do want to cancel some cards for the sole purpose of not having to use them

to keep them alive, but that would hurt over time.  So just gonna keep them until further notice

Message 12 of 14
NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Unintended Consequences

Also keep in mind the reason we have FICO is as a quick-read Risk number. As your borrowing decreases, particularly later in life, with good payment history your perceived risk of default decreases, and score marches toward 850 with less and less debt.

But then you are no longer borrowing and have less inclination TO borrow, so the score no longer matters. And in the first place, any FICO score only matters if you are going out into the financial wirld to borrow or rent. Nobody else cares about your FICO except you and the next bank you approach, which at some point becomes no more banks.

Which is why I don’t get concerned about the points involved in a CC HP if that CC is going to reward me with the means to help pay for future travel. The travel I can enjoy. The HP I can’t take with me when I die, it cannot be banked for any value if I do not use it. Same with a refi HP that, over time would save real cash money.
High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
Message 13 of 14
Kree
Established Contributor

Re: Unintended Consequences


@NRB525wrote:
Also keep in mind the reason we have FICO is as a quick-read Risk number. As your borrowing decreases, particularly later in life, with good payment history your perceived risk of default decreases, and score marches toward 850 with less and less debt.

But then you are no longer borrowing and have less inclination TO borrow, so the score no longer matters. And in the first place, any FICO score only matters if you are going out into the financial wirld to borrow or rent. Nobody else cares about your FICO except you and the next bank you approach, which at some point becomes no more banks.

Which is why I don’t get concerned about the points involved in a CC HP if that CC is going to reward me with the means to help pay for future travel. The travel I can enjoy. The HP I can’t take with me when I die, it cannot be banked for any value if I do not use it. Same with a refi HP that, over time would save real cash money.

I once watched a documentary about people who really liked Air Jordan shoes.  This one guy took his off and walked down a muddy sidewalk barefoot to avoid getting his shoes dirty. I like to think of ficoscores as shoes. No point in worrying about a little dirt, its what they are for.

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