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Util vs. 90 Day lates

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Util vs. 90 Day lates


@Red1Blue wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
Agreed with Rev - if I could clear $18k of debt for roughly face value, or get rid of $45k in debt for $18k, I wouldn’t think twice. As it sounds like this is definitely an either-or scenario and therefore that whichever is paid off lump-sum, the other will have to be paid over time, I’d try and get rid of the most dollar-value debt possible. Since settlement offers aren’t guaranteed to be on the table forever, wipe out the two big ones for a big discount while it’s offered. Much better than erasing the smaller ones and trying to pay off 45 grand in payments. Scores shouldn’t even be the primary concern at this point.

What I am confused is the effect of Util vs. 90 day lates. All this time every one is saying bring the util down. I did not realize that 90 day lates also have the effect on the scores and they can hold the scores back. I am trying to take a two pronged approach and try to bring down the Util and also pay off the COs that are reporting 90day lates. I am planning on paying off / settling all the accounts in the next 6 months and I should have $0 Util on CO/Lates and 0 Accounts posting 90 day CO/Lates. 

 

I have 12 accounts showing as COs and posting the 90 day lates.

Total amount of the debit is $120K.

I can pay off 3 accounts with Util of $66K for $13k.  Brings down Util by $66k to $0 but only 3 accounts stop showing 90 day lates. Remaining 9 accounts showing Util $55K that I can setttle for $25k or less.  But they are posting 90 day lates also.

 

I have 4 secured cards and student loan and a new installment loan posting the ontime payment for last 6 months. 

 

At this time I am not sure if the Util is holding back my scores or 90 Day lates holding back my lates. That is what I am trying to figure out and how best to prioritize the cleanup. Which ever way I go, I am planning on wiping out all my CO Debt and Collections  in the next 6 months. After that I'll let my scores take its own time to rebound. I guess it really does not matter. I can take the snowball approach or pay off the large amounts and bring down the util fast.


No one can tell you the exact amount of points you're losing from each. But your highest priority should be getting rid of the chargeoffs if that's possible. Settling your debt doesn't get rid of the chargeoffs. Sometimes it creates a new negative.


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Red1Blue
Super Contributor

Re: Util vs. 90 Day lates


@SouthJamaica wrote:

No one can tell you the exact amount of points you're losing from each. But your highest priority should be getting rid of the chargeoffs if that's possible. Settling your debt doesn't get rid of the chargeoffs. Sometimes it creates a new negative.

As people on the forum suggested, I am not going to break my head. Clear the debts and try to get PFDs and move on. I used to have scores of high 700s. I fell off the wagon when Life throw a curve ball. Right now, my scores are in high 500's now. I'll be happy if I can reach 650 or good fico score level in the next 12 months to also have $0 debt. I am an MD/PhD and have income potential to live comfortable life. I just want to come out of this of this rut as soon as possible. I am not looking for new credit at this time in my life. 

Message 22 of 24
Anonymous
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Re: Util vs. 90 Day lates

Yes also be aware if you pay off the original tradeline and they update the chargeoff and they haven’t updated it in a while, that can cause a temporary point loss because it appears newer.

Hopefully you can make an agreement for them to delete the entire tradeline(s).

And don’t worry, once you get all this cleared up, time will fix everything as long as you don’t make any more derogatories.
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Anonymous
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Re: Util vs. 90 Day lates

Be aware that’s also true for the collection, if it hasn’t been updated in a while and they update it to zero. But at least you know then it’s going to age and hurt less overtime. But hopefully you can get these deleted.
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